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Treo 600: Getting The News Delivered

While I've been using Blogstreet's Info Aggregator to send RSS feeds to an IMAP email box I've looked into additional methods as well to see if I might find an even better way to do things.

To quickly sum up what you might have missed on Info Aggregator -- The service is FREE and you get an IMAP email box which automatically gets the RSS feeds you select delivered.  You can check this in your email client of choice including any mobile device (your Treo 600 of course...) or use the webmail interface which is also provided.  My only real complaint is the delay in delivery.

The Blogstreet network carefully polls things based on popularity and that determines the delivery frequency of each item. Some sites deliver once a day, which makes this less useful, if you tend to read at your desk in addition to on the go. I've found that messages received are often things I've seen at my desktop, but that might really vary for you if you are on the go more than I've been recently.

The additional services I've found that seem to offer similar benefits are News inMotion, IzyNews and RSS2email. I'd be open to learning about additional methods for getting RSS into an email box if you know of them, but really the only other way I've found was through Newsgator Online Services which unfortunately only supports POP3 and requires a payment beyond the demo period. IMAP is essential in this process for me so I can clean up things I know I've seen while at the desk and leave others so when I return I can either blog them or simply make a note to myself. (POP3 is an all or nothing method.. there is no memory of what's been read or even deleted in each location you might do your reading.)

News inMotion

I just started using News inMotion which is a great way to have daily or twice daily emails sent from up to 5 sources. Right away this seems to only make sense for a supplemental flow based on the limits (more on the number of feeds than the level of delivery, though it would be nice to see more frequency as well.) Since I am heading towards complete information overload with the RSS feeds I have coming in through all my channesl, I thought I would keep to some more major news sources as (believe it or not) they are the ones I tend to skip in my daily collection. Here's my current subscription list...

  • New York Times - Business
  • New York Times - Technology
  • Reuters - Top News
  • StartupSkills.com - Resources for technology entrepreneur
  • Washington Post - Technology News

I did throw in that StartupSkills since I had not heard of it and thought it might be interesting to read. The others are covering the bases for me given the amount of similar information I regularly track. News inMotion provides a good list to start from the usual suspects and allows you to easily add your own feed URI to the list as well.

IzyNews

IzyNews is a very interesting player in the space. First there was IzyMail which enables all your webmail accounts like Hotmail and Yahoo mail to get delivered in a mail client. IzyNews is a pretty cool yet complex way to deal with news feeds. You set up a separate account in your mail client and IzyNews automatically manages your subscriptions into folders so it's pretty easy to see what's going on. This is a very nice feature considering the work that many people would have to go through filtering messages appropriately from a variety of sources. Personally I like filtering mail by subject or source, Izy does this out of the gate, so I like it. I'd love to see more providers offer this server side filtering for mail as well as news since it's such a time saver and since it (in theory) simplifies your view of information.

Here's what the default set looks like in Mozilla's Thunderbird:

After I uploaded my (593 feeds!) subscription OPML file from Bloglines things changed pretty drastically. A new Folder was added called 'Subscriptions' and each item from my file was added below. The folder (or outline) structure I have on Bloglines was mostly preserved which is helpful, but man is this a serious list of stuff.

For whatever reason, it's easier to deal with this load in Bloglines, probably because the sub-folders themselves actually contain content but in mail you have to go through each and every item. I chose not to share the image of this relative chaos as this blog was getting long enough.

If you are considering reading RSS in your mail client to keep it simple for you rather than relying on separate apps or your web browser, IzyNews is pretty nice, though I'd suggest a different manner of organization than I have curently and possibly subscribing to fewer sources. My taste does not like the manner in which feeds are summarized for each source... IzyNews creates a paper for each feed you read giving you a quick extract and a link to continue reading. I personally like the full thing whenever possible...

RSS2email

RSS2email is a server based method you control. You'll need your own server or connected machine in order t o do the processing and sending to your inbox. It's not that hard to configure, and seems to work quite well. Of the services I've tried it's my favorite. Aaron Swartz is a great contributor to the information community and has written some great tools like co-authoring RSS 1.0 and enabling a linkable URI scheme for referencing the NYT.

Meanwhile back to RSS2email... Following the directions posted on Aaron's site was easy to do and I was able to get things running on my server. After adding a few feeds, I checked to see what they looked like and was really quite happy. If you've seen Tidbits, the format is similar. Each link in an entry is tagged with a number and at the bottom of each article is a list of links. I chose to limit my view to text only, though you can get HTML messages as well, which I presume would include the images rather than link to them as the text based option does. You can also set a variety of options in the main file (rss2email.py) which lets you control how the from looks, the time of the post (when it was posted vs. when it was sent) and a variety of other details.

The only trick to the whole thing is finding a machine that supports what you need to do. Fortunately my host is running linux and python was installed, because that's how it works. I am not a programmer or a developer, I just went through the steps and it works. I know enough to find my way through the file to tweak some settings, but that's beacause I know how to read ;). I've scheduled a cron job on my host to run hourly which then pumps all the new information to the email address of my choosing.

I'd like to also add that in the course of testing I ran into a few hiccups and emailed things to Aaron who promptly replied and fixed things so it would not effect anyone else. Thanks again, Aaron. You can easily keep track of fixes and additions to the RSS2email service by (what else) subscribing to the feed.

Usage Notes and Taking it With You

How you deal with, and even the amount of information you choose to manage (or not) is very personal. There is no correct way, it's much more a matter of what works for you. I like Info Aggregator, but have found RSS2email to be more relavant for my needs since it can deliver news more timely. IzyMail is an interesting way to do things, but in the end is just not for me. Based on the imposed limitations of News inMotion makes it much more of a side player since it can't handle the level of flow I want.

One of the key factors in my world at the moment is being able to take all this information with me on my mobile device. They can all accommodate this in different ways. Again, based on how you use your tools... Since everything is being delivered to an IMAP account on Palm that leaves a few options (Chatter Email, Snappermail, Mailwave and AgendusMail) which I've covered previously. Snapper and Agendus must connect upfront and you'll have to choose which folders (keep in mind how rough this will be with something like IzyNews and it's folder overload) to keep in sync. With Chatter and Mailwave you can set up an additional account to receive news messages and sync it how you see fit either always connected or synced over time intervals.

My preference is to use Chatter Email and sync my News account every half hour. This is efficient for me and keeps things simple as well. Chatter only works with IMAP accounts that support the IDLE command in order to push messages out to you. IzyMail does not and most likely will not support this. I did not have a chance to test this on Mailwave (I mean how many mail clients can one man actively run!), but it may work well there. Your own mileage may vary...

This post contributed by Jonathan Greene.

                                     


Posted by atmasphere on August 27, 2004 at 03:40 PM

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by Josh Bancroft | Aug 29, 2004 12:14:04 AM

You mentioned Bloglines, but I'm not clear if you've tried the mobile version (http://www.bloglines.com/mobile)?

I use Bloglines on my desktop, Pocket PC, and MS Smartphone. It's great, because it keeps my read feeds in sync, so I don't have to maintain separate feed lists, or re-read things that I've already read.

I find the performance on my Pocket PC (iPAQ 4350) over WiFi is flawless, and even over GPRS on my Motorola MPX200 Smartphone it's very acceptible.

If you tried it and didn't like it, I'm interested as to why. If you haven't tried it, give it a shot - it's awesome! :-)

Josh Bancroft
Editor - www.tinyscreenfuls.com

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by B. Task | Aug 29, 2004 9:07:36 AM

Chatter works with and without IDLE. Obviously, it works far better then Snapper and others - with IDLE. But if you don't have IDLE configured on your server you can set Chatter up to poll on a regular basis, just like you have to with Snapper.

Bill

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by Jonathan Greene | Aug 29, 2004 11:15:27 PM

I was under the impression IDLE was required for Chatter...

I've tried bloglines and have found performance and display to be pretty rough on Blazer... My subs list might be the issue as I track a pretty massive list (593 items).

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by Jonathan Greene | Aug 29, 2004 11:18:06 PM

I guess I should have added that given the push nature of Chatter, I was really looking to auto-receive info updates rather than having to browse for them. Chatter is amazingly efficient at delivery for me. I'm on GPRS and it's very peppy.

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by Ed Jones | Sep 2, 2004 3:29:19 PM

Thanks - this was great!

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by Aukcje | Nov 29, 2006 2:29:54 AM

I would like to thank for this article. Very me this helped in my project.

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