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Treo 650 & 600: Side-by-Side Comparison

Updated (Nov. 06): Please note that this comparison dates back to 2004.  Here is the link to the newest Treo Comparison Chart for the Palm OS Treo 680, 700p, 650 & Windows Mobile Treo 750, 700wx and 700w.

1. New conical/cylindrical shaped antenna (shame really, I kind of liked the old one...)
2. Power button is gone [UPDATE] NOT... It's now with the (red) call end button... (well spotted Paris)
3. New speaker shape
4. Same screen size but improved resolution from 160x160 to 320x320
5. Dedicated call answer and disconnect buttons
6. Overall keyboard shape change as well as slightly larger keys (+10%?) and also changed key shapes (from egg to oval... sadly...)

7. New stylus shape
8. Improved camera now 1.3 megapixels
9. Speakerphone shape change
10. Now with removeable Treo battery!
11. 'Reset' button is nowhere to be found...

12. Slightly larger IR port (better or just different shape?)
13. Power/Network button is gone [UPDATE] NOT... It's now with the (red) call end button... (well spotted Paris)

14. New data port (but will it be faster...)
15. Dedicated front microphone (on 650)

16. Screen on Treo 650 is finally centered (also notice screen quality improvement)
17. Absolutely incredible key backlighting (the ones on the Treo 600 are on but you can not even see it in this picture).  I wonder what the keys are made of that they can carry the backlight this way.

This side by side comparison is probably most useful for those people who already own a Treo 600.  For those of you that don't and who would like to learn more about the amazing phone, business and entertainment capabilities of the Treo line I strongly recommend that you read one of our most popular earlier posts.

For those of you who would like more background information on the Treo 650 and who had not read the original post of the release of the Treo 650 pictures you will find this here.

[Original Treo 650 images from WeeBitObsessed via TreoCentral Forum]


Posted by Andrew on August 28, 2004 at 08:22 AM

Treo 650 Preview

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Comments

1
by wyldeone | Aug 28, 2004 3:54:08 PM

The backlighting on the keys reminds me of my T300. Can't figure out why they changed it for the 600.

2
by Jonathan Greene | Aug 28, 2004 8:11:22 PM

Am I the only one wondering what that orange screw hole is on the back? It seems to be in the same place the current model has a rubber piece. Just not covered at the moment or what?

3
by methnen | Aug 28, 2004 9:36:01 PM

Looks like an antenna plug to me. Like on the old Nokia phones.

4
by Jonathan Greene | Aug 28, 2004 9:44:18 PM

yeah that's what I was thinking, but it's not like you'd be attaching a pigtail there...

5
by rob mayoff | Aug 29, 2004 12:43:01 PM

If you pull that rubber piece off the back of your Treo 600, you'll find exactly the same connector that you see in the picture of the 650.

6
by HTwidescreen | Aug 29, 2004 5:39:47 PM

Usually typical for a car kit cradle antenna connection...

7
by Treo Ace | Aug 30, 2004 5:03:17 AM

The backlighting is amazing!

8
by Perry Holden | Sep 1, 2004 9:23:50 AM

Looks like the Treo 650 is almost my perfect Palm. However, as a PDA spreadsheet user, I just want my Tungsten T3 screen size and format shifts!!! Then I will have it all in one device: Real Player, Phone, PDA & wireless connectivity to email and the Web.

9
by Perry Holden | Sep 1, 2004 9:42:05 AM

forgot to mention the camera in my have it all list . . . .

10
by James Rosca | Sep 2, 2004 7:36:46 PM

is there any news for bluetooth for pairing especially with earphones, WiFi, Edge, GPRS, Push Technology (Like Blueberry), can it play multi-media(mp3 and mp4) and can it already do video conferencing like

11
by Perry Holden | Sep 3, 2004 7:53:12 AM

As far as MP3 -- I tried a Treo 600 for 30 days and it played my RealOne tracks on the RealPlayer software just fine. In fact, the Treo 600 speaker (for hands free) played the music quite well without headphones -- much better than my T3. If their is an MP3 player out there for the Palm OS -- you should be fine. (Get a 1gig SD memory card -- it will hold 150 songs.) (I stuck with my T3 for spreadsheets -- otherwise the TREO 600 and now 650 would be my choice.)

12
by Perry Holden | Sep 3, 2004 9:14:08 AM

AeroPlayer from Aerodromesoftware.com playes MP3s . . .

13
by Tristan Louis | Sep 3, 2004 10:52:45 AM

For MP3 and WMA files, you can also try pocket tunes (http:// www. pocket-tunes. com) It's a nice overall player and well worth the $30 registration (registered users also can stream MP3 streams)

TNL
Not affiliated with Pocket Tunes... just a happy user

14
by Guest | Sep 8, 2004 6:37:13 AM

Does anyone has the pictures taken with the 1.3 MP camera? Want to compare it it the zire72's camera.

15
by Treo 600 User | Sep 8, 2004 2:38:06 PM

I bet the missing reset button is in the battery compartment!

16
by daniel gil | Sep 9, 2004 1:39:16 AM

i just hope they work out all of the bugs on the phone. i have been a treo 300 owner and a 600 since it came out in october. since then i have gone through 5 treo 600's all because of defects. i love the phone but sometimes i wanted to throw it against the wall for failing 5 times. for the money it should never go down. i just cant wait to get rid of the 600 to get the 650.

a dissatisfied happy customer

17
by Liam Randall | Sep 9, 2004 12:20:35 PM

Last week if you registered your Treo 600 online you recieved a free software MP3 player at PalmOne.com for the Treo 600. Don't know if the offer is still available- https://www.onlineregister.com/palm/reg/cgi/index.cgi?LANG=EN&CTRY=United%20States

18
by Dario de Judicibus | Sep 10, 2004 6:49:45 AM

Well, I am pretty disappointed by the decision to make the new Treo 650 absolutely not compatible with Treo 600 accessories. There is NO technical reasono for that, just marketing. It is not a good strategy for brand image. It means: if you buy the new one, you have to buy again all the accessories you already have. A Treo 600 is a very expensive device (€850 in Europe). Whoever pay such a price expects a different style from maker.

19
by DA6030 | Sep 14, 2004 6:12:07 PM

As far as the reset button goes, I agree with the above suggestion that it's probably in the battery compartment. I would expect the inside to look much like the inside of the old Kyocera 6035, with all that ugly regulatory numbers and such to be hidden away in there as well.

I'm 99.9% certain that PalmSource requires any hardware certified for their OS to have a user-accessible pin-hole reset button somewhere on the device.

20
by Gimme the 650! | Sep 15, 2004 12:07:55 AM

How could the reset button be in the battery compartment? Am I wrong to think they wouldnt require a reset with the battery installed? Or could you only reset it with it plugged in and the battery removed? Seems unreasonable, you cant always plan for a hard reset....

21
by All-Purpose Guru | Sep 15, 2004 1:52:38 PM

The reset button is in the battery compartment on the Kyocera 6035. It's next to the battery.

I actually like the idea. You can poke it with the stylus tip on the 6035.

There might be reasons for changing the plug on the bottom that have nothing to do with making everyone buy new accessories-- actually, the plug on the bottom looks like the old Palm Universal connector, so maybe you'll be able to use even *more* accessories with the new arrangement. Even if not, don't forget, PalmOne is the one that has to say "erm, no accessories yet" on the Treo 650-- so don't be surprised if there were very good reasons for having to change things.

22
by antonio munera | Sep 16, 2004 6:21:58 PM

I am still looking for a fast connection to my toilet. I was told the 600 would fit almost all the toilet models, and I am really hanging on this posibility, cause I suffer from irritated... well you know, I must have always a toilet near, to evacuate. But neither in the VIP area of the TWA terminal in JFK airport in NY you can find a toilet with in-built docking station. Hell, what a feeling surfing on your 600 while sitting on the throne and spitting the rests!!!

23
by Dan | Sep 17, 2004 2:42:01 PM

Noticed the 2 different circular areas around the camera lens? It does like it has a flash! anybody agree?

24
by Darren | Sep 18, 2004 4:29:55 AM

The 7135 (successor to the 6035) also has the reset button hidden in the battery compartment. It's a slight pain to have to open it in order to reset, but if you're resetting often enough to have it be annoying, you're running too much crap!

25
by joe | Sep 18, 2004 9:59:44 PM

when when when

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