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Treo A2DP Stereo Motorola S9 Bluetooth Active Headphones Review

Best Bluetooth Stereo HeadphonesThere is no doubt that Bluetooth Stereo Headphones for your Treo are becoming increasingly popular even though for now only the Windows Mobile Treo 750 fully supports the A2DP and AVRCP profiles required for use with these headsets.  Having said this, many Treo 680, 700p and 650 owners have recently also been able to enjoy the freedom of wireless audio thanks to an application called Softick Audio Gateway – the first Bluetooth audio streaming solution for PalmOS devices.

Motorola S9 Bluetooth Active Headphones

The latest set of stereo Bluetooth headphones that I’ve had the opportunity to test are the Motorola S9 Bluetooth Active Headphones pictured here and I have to admit that in a very short period I’ve come to like them at lot.  So much so in fact that they have now become my preferred headsets (combined with the ActiveLife WorkoutCase) for running in the morning because the lack of cables makes it that much easier to move freely.

Clearly the Motorola S9 headphones have been designed with this “active” lifestyle in mind as there are no cables of any kind to fumble with, there are no small pieces that could go missing, the entire headset is extremely light and solid, the combination of hard plastic, rubber and black/red color further enhances the “sport” look while still being discreet enough to use in any situation.

Motorola S9 Bluetooth Active Headphones

The back of the headset (above) features a simple and large On/Off button, indicator light and also the charging connector – all of which are covered in red rubber.

 Motorola S9 Bluetooth Active Headphones Motorola S9 Bluetooth Active Headphones

The left ear loop provides touch sensitive volume controls and also the Call Answer/End button while the left side offers track Forward/Back controls as well as the Play/Pause button.  The speakers are large, loud and comfortable and three sets of different shaped and sized ear cups make it easy to find your perfect fit.

Motorola S9 Bluetooth Active Headphones

Aside from the three sets of ear cups, the Motorola S9 kit is pretty basic and includes a wall charger but suprisingly and annoyingly for a headset priced above $100 no USB charging cable is included (my only complaint really).

Motorola S9 Bluetooth Active Headphones

As I mentioned earlier, I found the S9 headphones to be extremely comfortable to wear for long periods of time – at only 36 grams the weight is easily balanced between your right and left ears – barely noticing that you’re wearing them.  The cantilevered design also ensures that the back of the unit normally “floats” over your neck without actually touching it.

Separately, I found Bluetooth audio quality and volume to be extremely good and I was also particularly impressed by the range which allowed to easily move over 5 meters away from my Treo without any sound distortion.  Inbound and outbound call quality is also good (a rated 6 hours of talk time) but for extended calls I feel that dedicated Bluetooth Wireless Headsets are still a better choice.

Overall what I like the most about these new S9 headphones is how simple to use, comfortable to wear and extremely solid they are – a combination that makes them ideal for sports but equally great if you just want to listen to music or watch movies while on the go.  Although I won’t be replacing any of my favourite Bluetooth headsets to make calls I am nonetheless now happily keeping the Motorola S9 for my morning runs.  My rating: Very Highly Recommended.

Treonauts always enjoy something new


Posted by Andrew on May 17, 2007 at 02:33 PM

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by mbh513 | May 17, 2007 4:54:33 PM

I just got these and they are fantastic! I bought them to replace the Motorola HT820-tired of looking like Princess Leia. I use them with my 650 and have absolutely no problems. I downloaded the most recent version of Softick Audio Gateway and the whole setup is perfect.

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by Michael Hildebrand | May 17, 2007 5:24:42 PM

I assume that seen you can receive calls, it has a reliable, and good sounding mic?

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by dafttreo | May 17, 2007 8:23:13 PM

Alright, as a runner myself, you've got my attention. Currently I utilize Sennheiser's PMX70 Sport Line Stereo Neckband Headphones coupled with a Smartphone Experts Stereo Adapter. I've found this to be a pretty good running solution for my Treo 680. The wireless capability of a Motorola S9 Bluetooth Active Headphones piques my interest though. Now let's go into greater detail: does the back of the unit (where it appears all the weight is) bounce on your neck while running? How well do the earbuds stay in your ears while running? You say the weight of the unit is comfortable, but are the buds comfortable in your ears over long durations? And as to sound quality, how does it rate (with music, for example)? Thanks for bringing these headphones to our attention.

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by justin | May 17, 2007 11:02:53 PM

will they work with the 755 for sure?

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by Andrew | May 18, 2007 12:47:45 AM

dafttreo - coincidentally I also happen to have the PMX70 for running...

The back of the S9 does not bounce on your neck and the earbuds stay in extremely well (no chance of accidentally falling out). You need to find the right bud fit but personally I found no problem listening to music a couple of hours at a time. I'm no sound quality expert but I'm very happy listening to my music with these headphones.

Justin - they may work with the Treo 755p once Softick Audio Gateway has been updated - I don't know what the current status is as I have not tested them with the 755 yet.

Cheers, A.

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by mike | May 18, 2007 1:36:24 AM

is there a built in mic for talking on calls or do you have to speak into the treo mic?

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by Homer | May 18, 2007 5:23:30 AM

I bought the plantronics 590A which is nice. But the softick audioGateway on my treo700P is complete Garbage. I pretty much locks up the phone whenever a call comes in and I'm constanly reseting the phone to get it to pair back again. Definly not ready for prime time. Pluss it started draining my battery bigtime! Can't wait for a treo that works with a stero headset from the getgo.

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by mbh513 | May 18, 2007 3:03:01 PM

Just took a call on the S9-the person I was talking to said they could tell something sounded a little different. I could hear them fine and they could hear me. It didn't sound tinny or far away. The only thing I have noticed is when you are on a call, the headset only works in the left ear but when you play music, it's in stereo. The HT820 did both in stereo.

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by Peter | May 18, 2007 11:37:17 PM

I bought the s9 for my wife's upstage but, of course, I had to try it with my 650. It worked pretty great with the afore mentioned softick audio gateway software. As of today, the s9 with the audio gateway software DOES NOT work on my 755p. I read on another forum that a person received a response from softick support saying they are trying to release a beta version of audio gateway that will be compatible with the 755p in the next few days. As soon as they do, I'll let you know if it works.

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by Gil | May 19, 2007 2:15:57 AM

I tried pairing it with the 755p and it does not work. When paired it pairs like a headset and you can only hear it while making calls.

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by dmm | May 19, 2007 3:00:09 PM

Gil--see Peter's comment above yours. I can't tell from your post if you have Audio Gateway loaded--it won't work without that, and it looks like enough components/software have changed from the 700p to the 755p to warrant a change to Audio Gateway. Keep your eyes peeled or subscribe to their RSS feed for updates.

http://www.softick.com/bluetooth-audio/

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by Arnold | May 21, 2007 5:16:03 PM

I just got the S9, and the audio Gateway software. Did anyone have this problem? When playing music it is fantastic, but when I take a call, it works but after the call is hung up the Ptunes or Realone player will freeze and then the music will play with the external speaker for a breif moment, then the palm will freeze? I have to do a soft reset to start over but it happens everytime I make or take a call. Please help someone?
Thanks

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by Peter | May 22, 2007 3:21:27 AM

I just installed the new Softick Audio Gateway 1.12. The S9 worked flawlessly on the Treo 755p. This is a great headset. I know from personal experience that it works great on the Treo 650 and the Treo 755p.

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by Darryl | May 26, 2007 3:34:10 PM

I dunno. My S9 just arrived in the mail compliments of Amazon. I find them uncomfortable, and i mean really uncomfortable. I've tried the various earpieces and none of them seem to work for me. After only a few minutes, they are really painful whereas I couldn't even think of running with these things.

I've got a Treo 750 and while I can hear fine, people who I am talking to tell me it sound slike I'm talking under water. I had my son try then on while I talked with him and the sound definitely is muddy (and he was standing inside my house), can't imagine what they would sound like if you're outside or in a crowded place full of ambient noise.

I'm going to return mine. And I was VERY excited to get them too. Quelle Dommage. I'm currently using the Motorola h700 bluetooth headset, altho maybe I'll try the Jawbone. The 750 comes with a wired stereo headphone that will have to suffice until I find a better alternative.

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by Jason | Jun 5, 2007 6:22:09 AM

I have a Treo 700w (Verizon) and just bought a pair of S9's. After searching all night, it seems I may have made a foolish purchase. Will I be able to use the S9's with my Treo 700w?

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by Jason | Jun 6, 2007 4:32:32 AM

I was able to make my S9's work with my Treo 700w. However, after I downloaded and installed the software that makes the S9's work, now the volume on my Jabra JX-10 is very faint. I am not able to increase the volume. I paired the Jabra with another phone and the volume works fine. If anyone can, help!

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by aviston | Jun 7, 2007 6:34:27 PM

How did you install your headphones to your 700w and make them work.. I have some motorola ht820's and they dont play music through them.

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by Aloke | Jun 25, 2007 11:52:59 PM

Even though Motorola claims that the S9 is sweat and moisture resistant, that claim was severely tested by me.

On the first bike ride (2 hrs, 34 miles), with sweat poring in rivulets off my large head, the switches in the sides shorted out after about 90 minutes. The small touch sensitive switches to control the volume and the next/previous track were the problem. The bigger switch in the middle (pause music, pick up call) were OK.

The symptom was that I heard a series of muted beeps like when you increase volume, the volume went to maximum and could not be reduced (I had to place the earpieces out of the ear-canal for the duration of the ride).

I wiped off the headset with a moist cloth, took off the rubber earpieces, and let the unit dry off for 24 hrs. The buttons started working again. Yay!!

On my next such 2 hr bike ride, after about 1 hr, the "volume up" and the "next track" controls stopped working. The tracks started changing in a random manner, with no way to stop that behavior. This time, even after a cleaning and waiting, the controls remained defunct (even in phone calls).

I exchanged the unit for another at Best Buy (they handled this very nicely..). I am thinking of using the S9 only for daily car-pool commutes and casual use in my office etc. Too bad, I was really hoping to use this during my bike rides.

Summary: While I did sweat profusely into/on my S9, I did not swim or immerse it, or use it in poring rain. It still malfunctioned under those conditions. Consider this a warning, in case someone is planning to (ab)use this the same way.

Treo+SAG1.12 worked very well throughout this period.

I am planning to e-mail Motorola with my experience, hoping that it helps them design their future products (I could even test those for them )

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by dsantana | Jun 28, 2007 1:35:41 PM

Thanks Aloke for sharing this info.
I found the same problem myself, and was looking at another case.
In my situation I used the S9 to run, and after 20 min same issues occured, sensitivity on the track change buttons was affected by sweat flowing down my head and the headset, everything stopped woking and even ater trying to 'fix it' by cleaning/drying, it never worked again...
Too bad, as I really liked the S9 headset, and found it very confortable to use. I hope they fix this for the next release.

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by charred_water | Jul 3, 2007 10:47:36 PM

I have Treo 650 with Softick audio gateway 1.12 (latest), pTunes 3.1.1, RealPlayer 1.6.0.

The sounds works great. The volume buttons work. But the pause, FF, RW buttons have no effect on either pTunes or RealPlayer.

I also have Freedom utility installed. Could that be a problem. I disabled it. No change.

Would appreciate any suggestions.

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by Aloke | Jul 4, 2007 2:21:59 PM

I had emailed Motorola describing my experience with the side buttons (too touch sensitive) and water resistance. Here is what they said. Not very helpful, but FWIW:

"the S9 was designed to be moisture proof, direct drops of water or sweat on the device may cause it to malfunction, we appreciate your feedback, people like you help us improve our products to make them reliable and user friendly, thank you for taking the time to let us now about this."

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by frank | Jul 25, 2007 4:23:01 PM

Yeah... s9 is weird like that.
Using mortplayer 3.31 rc7 and widcomm bt stack - avrcp and a2dp work great. Sound quality is wonderful. Using for extended periods is great!!!
BUT
those vol(up/dn) and track(next/prev) are tooo damn sensitive!! the wind blowing can erroneously trigger.
is weird, when exit mortplayer I experience rapid fire auto-volume changes (beep beep beep beep...)
AND
those ear peices are very painful even for 10 minutes or so - just feels bad. Adjusting them usually results in accidental track, volume changes.

x51v axim dell a12 wm5 english widcom .50 speedswitch and flowcontrol reg set to 0.

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by sam | Aug 5, 2007 10:17:21 AM

Hi Folks

I m from London just got my s9 it did work couple of days fine but now only one speaker works when i play music does any one know wot shud i do.
ta

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by Shawn | Aug 6, 2007 7:14:06 PM

I had the exact same experience as Aloke. I just took my new S9 out for a long run yesterday for the first time. I loved everything about the experience - fit, sound, and convenience. But then just over an hour into the activity the "volume up" button apparently shorted out and it maxed out. I shut the thing off and on and continued with it set and a moderate volume - which I could not adjust either way. Later I realized that all the flush buttons were ineffective, only the proud pause/play button worked.

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by Louis | Aug 7, 2007 4:04:43 AM

I also had same problem with buttons and sweat. Used S9 with my Treo 650, SAG1.12, pTunes, took it out daily to run for 1 hr. Everything was great for a few days, then track change buttons stopped working. Returned them to Amazon, got another pair, same problem after a week, this time volume down button was also affected. Got a refund but I really liked the design. Look forward to a new release.

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by Jason | Aug 10, 2007 10:59:43 PM

i too experienced the problem with sweat causing the headset to malfunction. i have had the s9 for about 2 weeks, used them maybe 10 times and last night when i was running the buttons quit working. the volume seems to be stuck at the lowest level, as they still work, but you can barely hear it in only a silent environment. moto has a new pair on the way--although i had to provide cc number for them to ship first. they wanted me to ship back first and said it was a 3 week affair to get a replacement. unfortunately i will only be able to use the new pair for the subway commute now

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by Keith | Aug 15, 2007 6:14:36 AM

The s9 has some problems, i've gone through 3 already,if any kind of moisture gets into the ear piece they will short out. It always seems to be the left side that goes first. The rubber on the earpiece looks like it would keep out moisture but after tearing a pair apart i found that there is only hard plastic with no seal next to the rubber ear cup. It's too bad because the design is cool and sound quality is good but dont get them wet, at all.

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by robert | Aug 24, 2007 3:52:35 PM

I have an S9, i work in a warehouse and sweat for at least 5 hours per day. And after one week i noticed it would start beeping and changing the tracks on my phone without me touching the buttons. Thanks to this forum i see other have had this problem.

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by Travis Kerzic | Aug 24, 2007 8:54:19 PM

I am on my second pair too. Moisture resistant?? Bull...they didn't even put up a fight! All but the phone, and volume down quit functioning. I use them at the gym, running on a treadmill. This happened to my last pair right at about 2 weeks. I do not know what Motorola expect one to do. Not sweat? How hard is it to seal the electrical parts away?? Esp around the ears?
Its a bummer too....cause I like these things (when they work).

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by Ron | Sep 9, 2007 2:07:57 AM

I just got the Softic Audio Gateway for my 755P and it streams music easily and without a problem.

I have not got a bluetooth headset yet but am happy with it working with my stereo system.

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by Ralph | Sep 9, 2007 2:09:07 AM

Just bought a S9. Really love it, so far no problems. Two things to say. First be carefull there are a lot of counterfit S9's out there, Amazon/Ebay is 90% counterfit. Major difference between china ripoffs and Motos OEM is quality and internal design. External examination of ripoffs shows poor quality to carefull examiner, but you have to know what to look for. Check out Moto's web site for more info. Could be some of these problems are from counterfits. That is why Moto will not replace them until they see yours. Second; anybody know how and if the batterys can be replaced by the consumer, and if so how?

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by cef21173 | Sep 12, 2007 8:21:37 PM

Yep Me Too!!!

My S9's volume buttons went berzerk!! One thing though, my lasted about a month and a half before they started acting up. Sad too, like many others, I like the design and they do sound pretty nice. I can't wait to see what motorola will do to improve the headsets flaw. I'm inclined to buy another pair if they "REALLY" make them sweat/water resistant....Ciao!

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by imtribble | Sep 15, 2007 11:00:44 PM

I've just killed my second pair of S9 in one month. This is definitely NOT for an active user. I have to same button problems. Once you start working out (i.e. running in my case), the buttons just stop and the unit starts doing flaky stuff. I purchased my headsets directly from a AT&T store. It is definitely the design.

Now I'm taking this pair over for a refund.

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by REX | Sep 18, 2007 9:56:22 PM

This is happening to mine also. When I wear my running hat, the sweat gets diverted and the phones last 20 miles (3 hrs +). When I don't wear the hat the sweat penetrates the phones after 20 minutes, depending how long it's been since they last sweated out (i.e. how long they've had to dry out).

I called Moto on Friday and now they won't send a new pair until I send in my existing phones. They said any item that has MSRP over $120 can't be guaranteed by Credit Card to send replacement right away. The floor manager I spoke to said this is a recent policy as they claim to have been taken advantage of in the past...

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by Travis Kerzic | Sep 19, 2007 8:33:41 PM

If you have to send them in like me (on third pair), call them as soon as it shows DELIVERED. Give them the tracking #. I had to kick them in the a** 1 weeks after my first set was with them. If you call them as soon as they receive them, your total turnaround time ~ 1 - 1.5 week. Otherwise they will take their sweet time.

I'm going to try enhancing the waterproofing on this pair...let you know how it goes...

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by Mike | Sep 21, 2007 9:02:00 PM

What number did you call? My S9 buttons are totally dead. They make me so mad. I almost got hit by a car the other day jacking around with these things. They said they were for active lifestyles but not even 2 miles into my run and they start beeping and screwing up. I love them but I hate them also.

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by foobar | Sep 25, 2007 7:45:07 PM

Yes, the S9 is "sweat resistant": http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=177

If people keep sending the dead ones back to Moto, they'll eventually get the message.

If not, it's class action lawsuit time...

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by nick | Sep 26, 2007 5:52:42 AM

i am on my 3nd set right now my first s9 lasted 2 days i thought it was just a fluke, but after 2 weeks my 2nd set went out, the sweat definitely shorts out the buttons, Motorola claims that they are sweat proof ya right, hopefully the 3rd set will do better, they are extremely comfortable while running or mountain biking i can wear them for about 2 hours before they start to get irritating, i am spoiled now and cant imagine going back to my old headset, i purchased mine at Verizon and i intend to keep exchanging them for as long as i can, supposedly they have a 1 year warranty, if Motorola doesnt have a fix by then i am sure with slight modification i can get them to last longer, dose anyone else have any other success or failures with them,

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by paul | Oct 3, 2007 12:31:20 AM

I've had similar issues with malfunctions on the s9 after/during using it while working out. I'm currently awaiting my 7th headset and I've only owned them for 6 months. I think the maximum functioning time that I've experienced is 2 weeks tops and probably due to not working out heavily during that period. This last pair only lasted 1 workout. Every time I send it back they tell me that no one else is having this problem and no one else is complaining about them. It's good to see that others are telling them the same thing and hopefully they'll resolve the problem. They refuse to refund me my money since I did not purchase it directly from Motorola. They have started sending me replacements immediately and paying for return shipping on my defective product, but it's still a pain in the ass. The design is so cool and it's fantastic when it works, but this is a very frustrating process. I plan on making them replace them every single time they break until the warantee expires. Even if they have to replace them 20 times.

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by Kyle | Oct 5, 2007 4:48:43 PM

Hi all,

I am on my third pair of S9's and when I called again to Motorola the rep told me that they arenot aware of this problem. So I filled out a cutomer support form with the problem documented. Please so the same hopefully Motorola will make a revision to the headphones and fix the problem if enough people report it. Even better they will send us the revised S9's as graditude.

Here is the support site address. http://www.store.motorola.com/mot/en/US/adirect/motorola;jsessionid=3B4DAC49792F1E1EF22C3040227E6D47.mot2?cmd=MotoSupport

Thx
Kyle

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by pat | Oct 19, 2007 7:14:46 PM

I ordered two sets of the S9's and neither one will charge?!?! I've tried several chargers and still nothing. When i am pluggiing in the mini usb into the headphones, the led light blinks green once very quickly and thats all I get. Anyone else have this problem? Do you think they are just DOA?

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by VMD | Nov 15, 2007 6:08:35 AM

My 2nd set just shorted out after a week (2nd heavy workout). I thought the first was just a fluke, but after the 2nd, I figured I'd try a Google search and found this site. Now I know this is a definite flaw in the design since lots of others are obviously experiencing the same. Of course Moto won't admit there's a problem...that would mean they would need to take them off the shelves and loose lots more money than replacing the ones from people who are very active (probably the minority compared to the whole market of users). Well, at least they're honoring the warranty.

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by Arnaud | Nov 19, 2007 1:39:35 PM

Hi all,
i'm Arnaud from france. I got the same problem with my S9. The 'volume up' button stopped working 2 weeks after i've bought it.
It worked again after 2-3 days time off and complete battery-discharging.
But it's been broken again yesterday.
Sweat proof, Motorola's said ? my A**...

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by Dan | Nov 19, 2007 2:48:57 PM

Where the heck can you get replacement ear cups? The Hellomoto service people have no clue. Grrrrr

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by John | Nov 24, 2007 7:15:46 AM

I purchased my S9's through Verizon and tomorrow I will be returning my third pair since I purchased them one week ago.

At first I thought it was just me since I'm also on my 8th phone in 11 months. :-( Obviously there are some serious design flaws with this product. I hope they fix this issue quickly!

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by Syd | Nov 28, 2007 6:49:34 PM

My S9 was doing great for about 1 month. The 'volume up' is not working. i don't know if it was sweat... although it did happen during a lenghty workout. What the hell.... Such a nice design but crappy stability ... everyone is complaining.

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by SEF | Dec 4, 2007 3:31:08 PM

Thanks everyone! was just having the "sweat" problem with my headphones and i used a hair dryer to fix it. Must have had some moisture trapped in there. I love these headphones but they definitely have trouble with moisture.

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by Rahul | Dec 10, 2007 11:08:07 AM

well bought s9 to worl with my nokia 5700.. everything is excellent but i can only hear call in left ear and the mic is not catching my voice very clear?? hearing call only in left ear is it normal?? ot is it supposed to hear on both ears??
thanx

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by mark | Dec 11, 2007 4:45:04 AM

If you read the instructions,it states phone will work in only one ear,so yes that is normal.

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by joe | Dec 15, 2007 2:13:40 PM

My first pair came from eBay for $55. That pair wouldn't charge correctly and had the indicator light issue someone else described. Motorola replaced those and the second pair died during my second run. No sound out of the left side, even after drying them over the lamp overnight. My third pair arrived yesterday and during the first run the volume started malfunctioning.
Bummer.

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by Jess | Dec 19, 2007 3:03:00 AM

Can girls with long hair wear this without having to put their hair up?

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by Cz | Dec 20, 2007 8:25:09 PM

On my second pair due to sweat issue. I just received my replacements and I am going to seal the control buttons on both sides with.... something... not sure yet. I was toying with liquid nails using a toothpick or silicone. If they fry when I do it I will just replace them again.... This is a poorly designed product.

The second issue I have with my 700p is that when running outside I have the phone in my pocket and since the antenna on the S9 is in the back of my head, I lose signal on almost every stride!! that sucks. I have to buy a fanny pack to put my phone in close proximity to the antenna.

When I am in a health spa it is fine since there are many windows to bounce the bluetooth signal off of.

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by Cz | Dec 20, 2007 8:32:06 PM

After further thought I think wrapping the controls in black electrical tape should do the trick.

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by Jason | Dec 21, 2007 9:40:50 PM

Same problem with the volume after working out using the S9....I deliberately went to this product after sweat problems with other types I have tried.

Wish I would have found this site before I decided to purchase them.

I guess I will just continue to replace them until they won't replace them. At that point I agree with the idea of Class action lawsuit. Definitely a case of false advertising.

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by 14theroad | Dec 23, 2007 11:20:06 AM

Hi Guys,

Mine packed up for a while but I got them working except for the mosic track back botton by leaving then overnight on a radiator.

I as reading this forum this morning and decided to take a closer look at my S9.

It turns out that the rubber over the controls are just stuck on with glue/double sided tape or whatever.

Gently easing the rubber back starting at the "M" Moto symbol so as not to damage the contacts, allowed me to peal the rubber and dry out the offending area, and the S9 is now fully functioning.

Just need to work out how to mahe them seal better.

I bought mine on Ebay second hand, and therefore have no warrenty, so did not mind taking them appart.

If yours are under waranty, send them back cos it's not your problem.

Hope this helps.

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by Skiff | Dec 24, 2007 10:25:39 PM

I received the Motorola S9 for Xmas. I have a Treo 700w. After downloading and installed the Treo 1.22 Firmware and Audio Patch from Palm website the S9 works perfectly. Before the patches the S9 only worked at talking on the phone after the patch I can now listen to music and talk on the phone. Only complaint is my Mom was given the floor model so no extra ear buds were in the package. But that is the Radio Shack sales Rep's fault!

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by Charlie | Jan 2, 2008 5:30:34 AM

Got Motorola S9's. Will not pair with Treo 680 with or without Softick. Pairs with AT&T Tilt perfectly. Will take everybody's advice and use them inside...

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by Cz | Jan 7, 2008 4:20:27 PM

I think I have the sweat issue eliminated now that I wrapped the side controls with a single layer of electrical tape. I had quite a few workouts and so far (knock on wood) I think I have kept the moisture out of the controls... Also, you cannot even see the electrical tape since it matches the black casing.

Now I wish they would work better when using them while running outside. The bluetooth antenna doesn't pick up my treo 700p in my pocket very well... cuts out on almost every stride. I have to wear a fanny pack and have the phone behind me.

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by cz | Jan 22, 2008 6:00:48 PM

Spoke too soon. They fried AGAIN on a three mile run. these things s*ck for real workouts.

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by Scott W | Feb 6, 2008 10:27:20 PM

Re: waterproof...same problem here...use mine to workout. After a few months, the unit started beeping and the controls stopped working. It seems I have the same 'shorting' problem others report here. I'll call Moto and ship mine back.

Love the headset but hope they get the message loud and clear...the unit needs to be truly 'water resistant.'

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by Joe | Feb 19, 2008 7:41:52 PM

These headphones are not worth the price. The first pair I bought lasted about a month and then crapped out. (Device features would not operate properly-volume, play/pause button, answer mode, etc.) So I figured I just got a bad pair. Took 2 MONTHS of going through Motorola to get a replacement under the warranty that they are on!! Finally got my second pair, and after about another month, these just stopped connecting to my phone via bluetooth. I am now 3 weeks into getting Motorola into sending me another pair. Most unpleasant $140 I've ever spent!!! If you've purchased this item, good luck with it not going bad on you...and if you're considering purchasing this item, you cannot say that you haven't been warned. Good Luck!

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by Abhi | Feb 20, 2008 5:17:01 PM

I also tested with Nokia N73M. Works perfectly fine..

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by Jeff | Feb 21, 2008 7:29:22 PM

Here are a few things that I discovered when testing the S9.
1. Not a big problem but phone sound is mono not stereo. Just wasn't expecting it.
2. When using the ipod adapter (D650) I have to perform the following ritual.
A. turn off my Bluetooth on my Treo 650 phone.
B. Turn on the headset by holding the button for 4-5 seconds.
C. Unplug the D650 ipod adapter from my ipod.
D. Turn on Ipod
E. Re-plug D650 adapter
F. Wait for 10-12 seconds before devices are paired.
G. Turn phone Bluetooth back on.
H. Check my voicemail just to confirm that S9 re-paired with phone.
I. If not re-paired with phone then go through pairing process again with phone and hope that it did not cancel out the ipod.
J. pray that headset does not stay dormant for any length of time. If so then start back at "A" again.
3. If a call comes in then ipod pauses and I take the call, when call is done then play resumes. However, If I am on a call for any length of time then the ipod goes into a sleep mode. Ipod will not resume by itself nor by using the play button on headset. You must find your ipod and push the play button there first.

I have several good points about the S9 as well that have mentioned in other reviews so I will spare you the redundancies.

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by Hassan | Feb 29, 2008 12:17:53 AM

i want to know , why the s9 doen't want to work on the nokia n73 music edtion , it just only work as a bluetooth calling , but it doesn't work in the music player ..... some body help me and tell me what shell i do ????? i want it to be worked on it ... and thanks for reading my massage

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by sette | Mar 4, 2008 3:23:13 AM

just recieved my head set today paired it up with my mp3 player..worked ok untill i turned the volume down and now the volume up doesnt work.. im sending them back...i was looking forward to this thing but im scared of them now...

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by Neocother | Mar 7, 2008 7:07:30 PM

Someone have the motorola S9 and doesn't have any problems. Because, I'm thinking to buy for me, but after read all the coments, I'm scared and I don't know, how to do. Someone can tell me his experience. !!?

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by ajOlOtitO | Mar 12, 2008 2:12:37 AM

Hi there:
I bought a S9 but after I used for a short time it begans to discharge the battery too quick, so I decided to open and replace the battery. Do you have any idea about the type and specification of it and where could I buy it?. Thanks in advanced.

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by Eddie | Mar 18, 2008 6:33:18 AM

I too have had the same problem with the S9. After running for 30 minutes, it would develop a short. I tried two of them through Target and encountered the same problem. I then bought a bluetrek through Amazon, although they lasted longer than the S9, they too literally fell apart I guess because of the motion associated with running combined with the sweat. I really loved both headsets, but you would think that these people would make sure that their products work, and that we would not have to do the testing for them. Could anyone out there actually reccommend a set of Stereo Bluetooths that actually are made for running and sweating?

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by orinlouis | Mar 22, 2008 6:55:31 PM

out the door to buy pair three. (well, exchange, anyway.)

someone mentioned somewhere something about spraying the insides (of different bluetooth headphones, but headphones nonetheless) with shoe waterproofer. anyone daring enough to try? otherwise we're all going back to wires, if we wanna keep running that is...

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by Jimbo | Mar 25, 2008 1:24:48 AM

The S9 was very uncomfortable for me. Whenever you tilt your headback the ear buds would dig into your ear. If you wanted to lean your head back against a chair or pillow forget it. If you also have collared shirt forget it it bumps into that as well and digs into the ear. Sound quality was fine and if you just want it to workout then get it, but from reading other forums it tends to crap out with a little water. I brought my back.

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by SpinspinOC | Mar 25, 2008 11:51:39 PM

I had the same problem with the volume controls after working out with 2 pairs. Just going to return them which is too bad because I really like them otherwise.

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by Rick | Mar 26, 2008 4:15:02 PM

I purchased the S9's about 4 months ago with a service contract. They are great when they work, as I have had to take them back and exchange them a total of 4 times and I am about to take them back again. It seems that any amount of perspiration shorts out this units buttons, sometimes permanently. I can't get a refund, so I guess I'll just keep taking them back!

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by LaTasha | Mar 27, 2008 5:16:58 AM

HELP: So i purchased the Motorokr for my centro (I downloaded the necessary A2DP software). The headset works well for streaming music,and all of the music related controls work. However I cannot connect to a call. The headset just slowly flashes red (as in idle), and never bluetooths to the phone portion. Any suggestions?

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by Factotum | Apr 1, 2008 4:51:02 PM

Waterproof with 'Party Balloons' [the twisted animal ones], color choices galore!
Or clear plastic 'tubes' [that new stuff come packaged in to prevent scratches]...

Thanks for the info (all) about getting Palm Treo 755p to Stereo A2DP Bluetooth for Motorola S9 with Softic Audio Gateway (et.al.)...

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by Colorado | Apr 3, 2008 8:17:23 PM

The design of these headphones is great....small, stay on while running, etc....A+. The Quality however is the worst I have ever seen. I have gone through 3 pairs in the past 2 months, each failing for different reasons. I can see one pair being bad, but 3???? Another company needs to copy this design and build it anywhere but China, preferable in the US so there is some kind of quality control. You will never get that with products made in China. Here where I live you can get a pair for $39.99 and it comes with a 1 gb card and a starbucks card. I think they finally realized that these were just junk and are trying to get rid of them. If you can buy one for 1 dollar, then you are wasting your dollar.

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by ipods9 | Apr 9, 2008 3:15:34 PM

Just found this forum/review for the S9 sweat problem - glad im not the only one...

As I write this, I am getting static on the right side after my sweaty workout earlier...

I am on pair #3 myself... (since I started working out in Jan). Does anyone tried to take these things apart to see how we can try to fix the sweat issue?

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by ipods9 | Apr 9, 2008 3:22:57 PM

Factotum -- how is the clear plastic tubes or balloons working out?

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by H4CK3R | Apr 9, 2008 6:01:46 PM

I bought these for Riding my R6 ( Motorcycle ). Notice while coming into work today that the music would skip or garble while riding at 50 MPH, fine at 70, then garbled again around 120.

Exactly how does Bluetooth work? Does speed factor in connectivity? Also was hoping there was a way to increase the volume, even if I had to sacrafice battery time.. IE ride to work, LOad music for an hour, and recharge while at work, and repeat back to home.

H4CK3R

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by Javier | Apr 9, 2008 10:53:03 PM

Hi, a friend bought me this motorola headset, and sent me to Colombia, but unfortunely the Volume Up, next track, and play/pause button simply dont work, so anybody of all that wrote here know How to fix this problem, fixing the buttons, because im live in colombia, and is almost imposible to send it back to change it.

i read that is many people with this proble, some of you go with 7° pair, so thas incredible, but is there anybody that no have any problems with this motorola s9.

thanks

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by Toby | Apr 12, 2008 10:18:27 AM

Just unreal. Why doesn't everyone just build their own headsets out of twist ties and ear buds... use a hot glue gun and "seal" it all up ... presto! Same quality as these! :) TB - Vancouver Rocks!

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by Fermon | Apr 18, 2008 8:21:31 PM

Wow I am so glad I found this site. I have been having all the problems you guys mention with my Motorola S9. I am on my 5th pair, I work out every day and just did not put it together that it was a sweat problem. I thought it was some problem with my phone pairing(HTC Mogul)or Bally's gym interference with the bluetooth some how corrupting the headset.

I love how this comfortable this headset is while working out and running but now since I just received my 5th replacement I think I will just retire them to couch use. To bad they look like they were perfect for high impact activity.

Thanks for the heads up guys.

By the way everytime I return them Motorola pays for shipping but make sure you call them when it get delivered or they will lose it in paperwork and it will take forever to get a replacement.( I had 5 times to work that out)

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by Russ | Apr 21, 2008 10:09:11 AM

It's funny how the Treo hardware has not changed since 2003. That no other hardware vendor is offering Palm OS. That No new software vendors are supporting updates to Palm OS. That the Centro is a carbon copy of every other Treo EVER! And that the Bluetooth profiles are the same and have not been changed in years. But despite this, Palm keeps milking the Treo design.

So yeh pee!! Those of us that own PalmOS Treo's will NEVER GET TO USE ANY NEW HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE!!!

**** you Palm!!!

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by david | Apr 22, 2008 2:28:07 AM

i am returning it. the phone feature is only good for the left ear and that's huge annoyance. plus, the connection is not always seamless. these engineers can surely do a better job!

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by Mike Feeney | Apr 23, 2008 5:27:15 PM

I am ready to start a class action lawsuit on these.

We need to start a list of everybody who is having the sweat problem and go from there.

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by Mike Feeney | Apr 23, 2008 9:35:18 PM

OK, I have created an petition for this problem. Everybody, please spread the word and sign up. Thanks!

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Motorola_S9/index.html

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by jo_er86 | Apr 24, 2008 3:57:49 PM

just bought mine 5 days ago and now i get sweat problems just like everyone else... finding this thread somehow calmed my anger. I'm supporting the petition above and hoping everyone with the same problem also help out.

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by jo_er86 | Apr 25, 2008 4:39:54 AM

my S9 is working again... but the bass from the left earpiece seems to have diminished. anyone who has the same problem resolved it?

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by Wdzracer | May 9, 2008 3:31:36 AM

On my third pair since March due to the sweat issue. I thought I was just having bad luck with them until I found this post.
They work great when they work, but it is very annoying when they don't.
The reason I bought them was because the ad said they resist sweat.

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