Palm Centro Review
I kindly received my Centro review unit from Palm yesterday and after playing with it for a full day I can now confirm that my very positive original impressions when seeing the device for the first time at Digital Life in NYC have not changed – on the contrary I’m loving my Palm Centro more by the minute.
On the hardware front here are a few points that I’m particularly delighted with:
- Colour: I’ve been wanting a Black Treo for some time and now I finally have one (Palm call it “Onyx Black” and there’s also the “Ruby Red”).
- Form Factor: this smartphone is very compact, solidly built and shaped just right (rounded back and edges) to fit comfortably in your hand or pocket.
- Weight: at only 4.2 oz (119 grams) with its battery the Centro is extremely light (up to 1/3 lighter than previous Treo smartphones). It shaves a full 2.2 oz (62 grams) from the Treo 700p and 1.4 oz (40 grams) from the Treo 680 and you’ll notice the difference this makes the moment you hold one (image below and see also Palm Centro & Treo Comparison Chart).
- Full QWERTY Keyboard: some people can argue this point all they want but the fact is that I still consider that there is no substitute for a full usable keyboard on a smartphone. Yes, the Centro’s keyboard (below) is incredibly small but what is even more incredible is how well it works – it’s not quite as fast or comfortable as my Treo 680 but it comes very close (it’s also a hell of a lot faster than the virtual keyboard on the iPhone).
- Touchscreen: again, the touchscreen is smaller in size but luckily Palm kept a high resolution 320x320 display. I didn’t have any problems at all viewing all sorts of information on this screen but admittedly the smaller size does make it just a bit harder to reach some buttons or menus with your fingers using the touchscreen.
- Memory Expansion: although I’ll be missing the 8GB SD cards currently on my Treo 680 the present maximum of 4GB on a microSD card for the Centro should nonetheless prove plenty for most Centronauts.
- New 5Way and Flat Hard Buttons: these new larger flat/flush buttons make the Centro a more elegant (reducing the relative clutter of so many keys) and slimmer looking device.
- Back Speaker: until you hear it it’s hard to describe just how LOUD the new back speaker is – making it perfect for an impromtu music session, for your morning alarm clock and naturally more importantly to ensure that you actually hear your phone ringing when someone calls or texts you (comparatively I’ve been missing about 50% of calls on my test iPhone because both the speaker and the included ringtones are designed for people with bionic ears and not the average user).
- Camera/Video: I haven’t yet been able to make some proper comparisons but based on first impressions both the images and video that the Centro takes appear to be much improved over earlier models.
One of the few downsides on the Palm Centro is a relatively low battery life with a Talk Time of 3.5 hours but as with the Treo 680 previoiusly I found that an extra spare battery as well as maintaining regular charging cycles (overnight in a cradle for example) significantly reduce the limitations. Additionally, it’s also clear that as before we should expect to see an extended battery introduced within the next few months.
On the software front I have found an equal number of features to like:
- PalmOS: it may be old/ageing but the fact is that the PalmOS is not only perfectly usable but it also still does things much better than competiting operating systems on a great many fronts such as the Onscreen speakerphone and mute buttons, “Ignore with text” function, Google Maps integration, Messaging, Calendar, Contacts and Tasks among others. The additional benefit for existing Treonauts is that like me they’ll be able to simply plug their Centro to their PC and synchronize it using their current HotSync ID to have a fully customized new smartphone in minutes. There are also a few additional minor modifications within the OS and I’m trying to get a full list of these from Palm.
- Pocket Tunes Deluxe: with a value of $39.99 the full version of this top MP3 player is conveniently included in your Centro purchase ready to provide you with hours of fun with music on the go (something that I use almost daily).
- IM: bundled for the first time, the new IM application provides support for AIM, MSN and/or Yahoo! to instant message your buddy list while on the go – it works great and even lets you know of incoming message via an alert when you are out.
- Sprint TV & On Demand: part of the exclusive Sprint content and services found on the Centro (also includes Sprint Mobile eMail). Most of the programming is free (On Demand alone used to cost up to $10 per month) and includes things such as streaming news, video, music, radio as well as news, sports, weather, 411 and TV Guide.
- Google Maps: the latest version of Google Maps is also now pre-installed in ROM and provides a superbly useful solution and now also includes Contacts integration so that you can quicly view directions to a contact’s address.
- Nuance Voice Control: this voice recognition service works surprisingly well and the only downside is a relatively long delay as it’s an application that runs wirelessly via a server instead of being an on-board application.
- Third-Party Software: with hundreds if not thousands of fantastic third-party software designed for the PalmOS, you can customize and further enhance the functionality of your Centro to your hearts desire (see my Top 100 Treo Software).
Overall the Palm Centro will prove to be a terrific smartphone for existing Treonauts wishing to greatly reduce the size and weight of the device that they carry in their pockets every day without having to make any significant compromises. Newly minted Centronauts for their part will find a device not much larger than their current standard 12–key phone – one that now offers them all the amazing benefits of owning a Treo smartphone.
Both the AT&T Centro and Sprint Centro are now available for FREE with a 2 year contract or for $99 directly from either AT&T or Sprint. For additional information and full specifications please see these previous posts:
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Paul - From what I can tell, IM uses data and does work in Background mode (you get an Alert notifying you of an incoming IM message).
I hope this helps.
Cheers, A.
Does the Centro have the same sync connector as the Treo 650 and other Treos? For sync cables and charging cables. I haven't seen a comparison or confirmation about this anywhere.
Thanks,
Mac
And the same crappy web browser Palm has had for the last five years.
Why not get a real version of Opera Mobile running on the Centro? And why aren't there any third party options? I'd gladly pay $20 for a decent browser.
Mac - yes, thankfully the Centro uses the same connector as all Treo smartphones so existing sync cables such as my favourite retractable one:
http://shop.treonauts.com/content/accessories/5-19--424.htm
and also existing wall chargers and car chargers will work fine.
I will write a separate post with a list of the top Centro accessories. Currently the biggest gap appears to be the lack of cases and also spare batteries but these should become available within a couple of weeks.
Cheers, A.
Is the speaker loud enough to use the built-in speakerphone in a noisy moving car?
I find my Treo 680 speaker is loud enough in a quiet office, but useless in a car.
And just to avoid any future headaches... how is the BLUETOOTH integration with this phone? Better than the past? I've tried everything from the Cardo Scala to the Jawbone bluetooths and they're all lousy.
Hello
As SKYPE has just announced its coming free acces handset to telephone communication worldwide I still can't imagine why Palm is persisting on machine without WIFI access ...
Wake up Palm you are loosing your faithfull allies!
There is not a single Palm machine without frustration, when all technology and knowledge is here around...
Exemple: My present Treo 680 is without dictaphone and without WIFI and fed so poor photos and video images quality.
How do you expect me to buy a Centro ?
Serge
Do you think this Centro will be available from other carriers such as Verizon in the near future?
Several questions:
-Are you saying that the cardle that I used for my 700p will work with the Centro?
-In your opinion, which bluetooth headset will work best with the Centro. I too share Dan's opinion about the Jawbone and Cardo. They do not work very well with my 700p. Any suggestions?
MikeTeeVee - yes, I would consider the speakerphone to be loud enough in the car. I would also use Volume Care Pro to ensure that you can boost the volume even more if you need to.
http://software.treonauts.com/product.asp?id=2158
jb - no word on Verizon or AT&T yet. We do know that a GSM version of the Centro will be released but not before Jan 08 when Sprint's exclusivity period runs out. My bet is that both Verizon and AT&T will definitely carry the Centro (or a variation with the same form factor).
Dan - I haven't found any problems at all with Bluetooth on the Centro using either my Jawbone or JX10 with both inbound and outbound calls connecting to the headset quickly and seamlessly (much better than on my Treo 680 or 700p). I will also be testing other units next week.
Stan - I haven't tested the existing cradles for compatibility with the Centro yet but I will know more next week. Also, I don't think that there is a headset that will work "best" with the Centro. My personal preference is for the Jawbone but other equally good alternatives include the JX10 and Jabra BT5020.
Cheers, A.
This device is a sad attempt to squeeze every last penny out of the few remaining suckers that still think Palm is a reputable brand.
Enjoy the rituals that take place every new product release:
- Having to throw out your old accessories and re-buy them. Case in point, the SD cards. Which you can conveniently buy from Palm with a shiny palm sticker on the front at only double the price of what the card costs everywhere else. If you upgraded last time to a micro-SD card, too bad for you, buy another one.
- Having to go through every app you have installed and figure out which one it is this time that's causing sporadic resets several times a day.
- Having calls drop or go directly to voicemail, and then crossing your fingers and praying for an update which comes a year late and bricks your phone.
- If this if your first Palm device, having to buy a headset to make the phone functional, as the build in speaker/microphone do not work other than in a sound isolation chamber.
I feel bad for the children whose parents buy this for them thinking it's cool. You can't fool them, who in their right mind would consider "Onscreen mute button" a major feature? Wi-fi is a major feature, this devices "features" are nice to haves at best.
This device and this company are ancient history. Please move on.
To poster PalmIsDead:
1. If you purchased a micro card, just get the adapter to use it as a mini or full SD card. You can always adapt up, just not down.
2. Sounds to me like most accessories are going to be compatible, such as the charging connector, headphone jack, etc. Battery is obviously different size because device is smaller. You surely cannot reasonably expect Palm to never change anything about the Treo line just so accessories don't change, do you?
3. If the resets are caused by an app, and not hardware, then this is the fault of the person writing the errant program, not Palm. You can find the same problem on the WinMo devices too, as I have a Mogul that is WM6 based, and there have been programs that I've deleted because they weren't well written and cause freeze ups of the device. Same can be said for the PC too. Sometimes it's actually not Microsoft's fault, but shoddy programming from others.
4. Speakerphone? I don't get it. Mine is clear and fairly loud. If I want to make it louder, I can always add a program like VolumeCare to allow me to move past the present limitations.
5. WiFi, I'm with you on that comment. Palm needs to add this feature, like yesterday. It would definitely improve the value and usefulness of their products.
6. Finally, you sound like someone who has been burned in some fashion and is just disgruntled now. I know I was furious with Palm for awhile regarding their handling (or lack thereof) of the 700p ROM update. When they finally got it out, it has done a good job making the 700p a solid and stable phone. I was bitter for some time, but from the things I read it does seem as if they are trying to respond to the public outcries, and I choose to give them that chance. They've brought a lot of great technology out over the years, and although outdated, Palm OS is still way faster than WinMo, and more stable to boot. WM6 right now has more bugs than the Orkin man could handle. That's why my Treo 700p is activated, and my brand new Mogul is gathering dust.
@Jack
Thanks for proving the whole point of my post.
No matter how terribly palm treats their users, someone is always there to apologize for them. If you bought your 700p right when it came out, you got, at best, a buggy, at worst, a completely broken device. They refused to acknowledge the problems for a few months, and took a full year to fix it. If you were lucky the fix worked and didn't brick your phone. During that year, all of their development efforts were focused on a $499 "accessory" that could only sync email and couldn't run any other apps. When everyone (rightfully so) laughs at them, they ditch the device and take a $10M loss. How they have avoided lawsuits from their users and their stockholders is a mystery to me.
And somehow you still support a company like this? Why?
The Treo 650 was a great device. 3 years ago. If you like it so much, just buy another one. This "new" device is the same old thing in an ugly new skin and whatever minimal effort extras they could throw in. And whatever small hardware things they can change just enough to make you re-buy some accessory they sell at ridiculous markup. And you lap it up like a puppy.
Also, I have to call you out on your statement about the resets. What you claim is pure garbage. The resets are usually caused by Palm's flaky Versamail and SMS app updates breaking well designed third party apps that work fine on older devices. Not some random third party crappy software. You don't have to trust me, go look in the forums.
Who said anything about WM6? It's very revealing to me that you immediately attack it. At least they are trying. They have way better multitasking, WiFi, will soon have full VGA screens, and the OS has been updated once a year and each year is gets better. When was the last PalmOS update?
You say WM6 has so many bugs but don't list a single one. There are many, many more WM devices out there, how do you know it's the OS and not the device? I seriously doubt you own one.
You also don't even mention the iPhone once, I wonder why that is?
I think that anyone that supports this company by buying or recommending a new Palm device after what they've done is being irresponsible. I wouldn't recommend one to my worst enemy. If for no other reason than they'd chuck the useless brick back in my face.
Am looking fwd to upgrading my 23 mth old handset; been following Treo related news since the release of the 300-series. I'd never thought Palm would release a product gearing to the consumer/prosumer market, save for when they bought out Handspring. (did the handsprings have a phone module way back when?)
So this will be my first step into the "smartphone" genre. I've had a non-phone Palm device before, and look forward to becoming familiar with the OS again. Since it looks like there is a dearth of cases at release, what would be a good tip on protecting the Centro from scratches on the screen/case? I know I'll be keeping the plastic sheeting upon unboxing...
@PalmIsStillDead
But the iPhone has no search, no copy-and-paste, no note-syncing with your computer, no officially-sanctioned third-party software, and a virtual keyboard that some people (not all) have a lot of problems with. For me, the iPhone is not an option.
Yes, Palm has been a disfunctional company for the last few years. Access, 700P, Foleo, etc. And their hardware (including the Centro) have a frumpy, disjointed and tacky look. Palm, PLEASE improve your industrial design! It's not that hard! Despite all that, I think the Centro might be my next phone. The price is right. The feature-set is awesome. The size is good. I'll just wait until I can thoroughly test out its keyboard. I'm also going to wait and see what others say about its stability.
To Dan:
As far as bluetooth, I found that Plantronics 510 worked best with my 650, and now with 755p. I use it for biz, and people have no idea I am on a cell phone, let alone on a headset.
I have never seen a negative review of things Palm on this blog!!
The voice feature (while technologically great) is way way oveer priced at $7/month.
Get over yourself palmisdead, if you dispise palm so much then get yourself a new phone and let the people who use this site for info on new Palm phones, us it for that. I personally am going to get a Centro as soon as it becomes unlocked because A) I have had my 650 for 2 years at that time, B) that is the nicest design palm has made for a phone (and out there other than a few high end phones) and C) that is what is to come in future OS models design wise. Hey the 650 is an ugly big phone but it has treated me well for what I needed it to do. Yes every feature you can stuff into is nice, but I would rather wait for all of the new stuff to debut on a palm device with a sleek built from scratch new OS and a better design (aka centro). The one good thing about the Iphone is that other companies will need to add the extra features but I do not want all of these new features on an old OS that could bug it out more.
I wanna say first off, I LOVE all my treos (Started out with a 650 and now have my GREAT 755P), But you made a mistake on your report the first treo to have IM bundled was the 755p it has all the programs you spoke of on this treo and the great keyboard that you love on your 680.
I hope that they plan on scaling up the processor soon I do get tired of the mp3 playback skipping when the treo connects or gets dropped from the network (it shudders then goes back to regular play), I dont know if this happens on all but both my 650 and my 755 did this (ptunes), or it could be that palmOS just dosent do mutitasking well.
Jake Lunde :)
@wushuhsu: No 3G, FM radio, or wifi. GPS is an option via bluetooth, but not built in.
I'm going to sound like a broken record, but I'm not interested in Palm's efforts to get in with the in crowd. I'd be very interested in their taking care of their core customers, like me.
Let me type it in all caps slow so they perhaps might understand...
BIGGER SCREEN, PLEASE.
What in the world is the value of saying "we're nailing Documents to Go down into the ROM, you can't delete so you might as well use it" and then limit me to a screen big enough for the first few letters of the title of a document?
Have any of you at Palm SEEN the screens on the average PocketPC? Somehow, they keep selling, so I'm pretty sure a larger screen is a viable option for your core customer who is TRYING to be patient as you get your ducks in a row.
Hurry up.
I just upgraded from the Treo 700p. Seems the Centro's camera is not as high quality. Everything on screen suffers from lag as the camera is moved around. Too bad...otherwise, I'd consider every other aspect an upgrade.
Just upgraded yesterday to the Centro...replacing my 2 year old Treo 650. Without installing any of the new HOTSYNC software from the BOX, I used my existing HOTSYNC and seemlessly installed all of my software/contacts/settings right into the Centro. (Within 5 minutes I had a fully configured brand new phone--exactly how I had my old one configured. Even my Snapper POP3 email software with all my accounts plugged right in.)
Immediate impressions: (1) I am now recieving a stronger signal from Sprint. I have a basement office that has a weak signal...and usually results in fade out and dropped calls. The Centro connects to Sprint much better! (2) Blue Tooth is much improved--compared to the 650. I have a Jabra BT 5020 and the BT connection is immediate and relatively noise free. (3) Watching TV is a blast!!! The new Spring Power Vision Internet is much faster than what I got on the 650. I spent the night surfing TV shows and watching music videos. I even did a side by side comparison of FOX News. It is basically LIVE on the Centro--with only a 2 minute internet delay.
Overall, I am please with the upgrade! The device is much smaller, I migrated my previous settings and software seemlessly, I recieve a stronger Sprint signal and my Blue Tooth works better.
No complaints here.
One more thing...
SanDisk just came out with a 6gb mini-SD card:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000UZOSM6/innovationinb-20
I am ordering this today.
That's a 6gb "micro-SD" card.
SanDisk 6GB micro SD High Capacity Memory Card, micro SDHC Card with SD Card Adapter
SanDisk is proud to announce our newest format and capacity to the SD card family: microSD High Capacity (microSDHC) 6GB flash card. Included as bonus is our new MicroMate™ SD/SDHC compatible, high-speed USB 2.0 Reader! This will help and ensure your transition from the microSD format to the microSDHC format ¡V for our cards and for compatible host devices. Also comes with a full size SD adapter to fit into devices with an SD slot.
Can anyone venture a guess as to whether or not TeleNav will work on the Centro?
I have a Treo 700wx and I love it, and wouldn't trade it...But recently for my birthday, my husband brought me a iPhone...which I also have a high regard for. It does many things that a Treo doesn't do, but except for the lack of GPS I let the iPhone complement the Treo, as I use both! Let's say that I love them both.
Does anyone think we will see the centro show up in canada? This is the phone I would really like to get. I currently carry a flip phone and a palm TX. It works ok I guess, but I have been considering a treo of some sort. The centro looks a little bit more my type though.
Hey Andrew,
The manuals that come with the Centro indicate a screen protector is not necessary, as it comes with a "permanent" screen protector installed. But if the "permanent" screen protecter gets scratched, isn't that the same thing as your screen getting scratched??? Is it replaceable? Do you know anything about this?
I LOVE my new Centro. Much better functionality of OS features than the 755p and I love the size and color. its a sexy treo! wish it had google talk though!
Hello everybody, i m going to take the step from Symbian to Palm OS, i just want to know if the Treo 680 can store cards bigger than 2 GB.
I m not that good for portable storage cards, and want to make sure my Treo680 will support bigger cards, the Palm page says only 2 GB
To MikeTeeVee:
The volume/speakerphone is not loud enough in a noisy moving car. I tried it the whole weekend, and can barely hear the other party unless the window is up and no radio is on.
It's loud enough in a quiet indoor space.
The other draw back is the short battery life. The actual usage is less than 3.5hr talktime and 300 hour standby.
Otherwise, it's a good phone.
hey i just ordered this phone. i am psyched. but now that i got a CLOSE look, i dont know about the color. its like black with glitter. lol how gay. i might need a cover for it. i didnt even bother looking at it before purchase, if its anything like my treo 700p i will love it
?Black with glitter is gay?
Sounds fine to me.
The world needs more glitter; flat pastel colors are soooo passe.
Palm Centro Lacks Vital Safety Feature - Voice Activated Dialing.
I was terribly disapointed to learn that my new Centro "Smart Phone" device does not come with "onboard" Voice Activated Dialing like my old Sayno phone with Sprint. It very difficult to dial a phone number when driving (not to mention dangerous) due to screen and key size. Though Sprint offers an alternative paid monthly solution called Nuance Voice Control. This is probably an oversight by Palm, and have no doubt they will eventually include this vital safety feature for free in their next software updat before a tragedy occurs.
I tested both the 755P and the Centro.
Heres my verdict and you can take it to the bank :)
The 755P Build Quailty outweighs the Centro by a long shot. The Centro is quite plastic while the 755P has the rubber type texture.
The Centro is small on both the screen and the keyboard. Pro or con? When your your typing emails or Text msgs...the smaller the keys the hard to type.
Both are really good phones, cuts above the rest no doubt. In the end, went back to the 755P since Palm has clearly stated they are targeted the first / new smartphones with the Centro. its apparent but its a great phone...so close the the 755P in everey way except build quiality.
Palm Centro is a good phone, and the sound quality is solid. Came across something interesting on Palm Centro at
www.g2bux.com/myaction.do?product=403
My 700p is a workhorse - Listening to my harry potter CDs via mp3 on ptunes, listening it my audible account audio books from Audible, watching golf how-to dvds and movies on TCPMP, reading ebooks with ereader, finding my way with Google maps, watching the golf channel on my slingbox, getting the latest weather with xweather, researching terms on the internet during a technical meeting, viewing Microcsoft project, Excel, Word, PDFs etc for business, IMing with customers and family when I can't talk, auto backups and seemless recovery with NVBackup .... I could go on and on but it is truly the swiss pocket knife multitool of the 21st century. I will be very slow to upgrade because it does everything that I can conceive of and it is fast enough for tv streaming in real time - about a 20 to 30 second lag when compared to my tv set. Oh yes, I occasionally talk on it too -
On the 750 can I watch videos from a website...needs to be at least 300K? and have Windows Player w/SP2
A quick question: does the Centro work with a standard stero headset/microphone plug that you would use on any other cell phone? (2.5 mm or whatever the right size) The reason I ask is because I plugged in the stereo headphones from my old phone (Samsung A-940) and only got sound out of the one speaker (the primary one) Do you have to buy a special headphone set?
So...has anybody else had trouble with the Centro slowing down or freezing? I have had this phone for a couple weeks now (i guess ever since it came out) and it is slow to change screens, will freeze up without a reason and, although I don't consider my fingers to be "chubby" persay, I can't seem to go one text message without jumbling up words.
1) does anybody know how to make my phone a bit faster with applications?
2) do you honestly think that I should trade in my phone to get a better one? I love this phone for the cute factor but it's starting to make me angry with the slowness.
Many people don't seem to like Palm as a company but I really don't know any better. Please enlighten me. Thanks!
OK, after just readin all of this, I had to go to a store and look at this phone. I am pretty big and after playing with it for 1 minute I could already tell it would annoy me from the first moment I would buy it.
First of all, the keyboard is stupidly small and cramped together. Keep pressing two or three buttons instead of one. Ending up with more correcting then typing - super annoying!
The second thing that really bugged me, is the one silver button in front that allows you to select applications. The ring around it makes it really hard to even select it at all and then it is so super sensitive it keeps selecting what you really don't want.
The third thing is the same old and slow palm software. Sluggish and still the old style. Boring and annoying.
If you guys here ever try one of the new blackberries, you will not even look at this pathetic try from Palm again.
Cheers
Bernd
You can get a combination headset / stereo headset for $10 at Sprint. I went everywhere looking for one, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc, thinking that sprint would be a lot more expensive, but then found theirs was the best price. The have a higher quality one, but it was out of stock. Haven't had great feed back on using it as a headset, but the stereo phones are more than adequate.
Overall, I like the phone. But I've owned a palm for years. It will be nice to have one device instead of two, just need the telenav to come out with a compatible device.
I just upgraded from the Treo 700p. Seems the Centro's camera is not as high quality. Everything on screen suffers from lag as the camera is moved around. Too bad...otherwise, I'd consider every other aspect an upgrade"
Dude what are you talking about? That’s not an upgrade. The 700p is the same as the 755p but its missing the antenna & can’t handle a 16GB SD card. The Centro in comparison has a shorter battery life & smaller screen size thus making it even harder to surf the web than all Treos.
When it comes down to it the best Treo of all times is the 700p
700p key features
Decent Camera
Support for 16GB SD cards
Longest available battery life
EVDO
320x320 screen
I just purchased a Centro - it is a great palm/phone! I wonder if anyone uses a lanyard to hold the Centro.
Due to my hand becoming numb I would like to be able to have it on a lanyard around my neck. Thanks what ever suggestions anyone might have to offer.
Just returned from a few days of meetings in Switzerland; in Zurich I picked up an unlocked Centro since here in Canada we have yet to see any sign of their arrival. I love it! It took me exactly half an hour during a lay-over in Toronto to transfer all contents and software from my aging 650 to the Centro; nothing new to learn, no change in interface, just a smaller and smarter looking machine. Now I can happily wait a while longer for the LinuxOS, Wi-Fi, etc. in the Next Great Palm without having to look out of step with phone fashion.
Hello. Is there a way to export recorded voice messages from the Centro? You know, like reminders or free style songs that you capture on the Centro. Does the voice recorder work with ease? Im debating about buying an additional $65 Sony voice recorder, but if the Centro can handle that, then there seems to not be a reason to pick up the extra hardware. Any thoughts?
[I have emphasized on the cons unlike most]
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DESIGN
When it comes to the buttons, the interpretation with the symbols provided on the buttons(between the keyboard and screen) are really confusing.
The button with the phone symbol is only meant to open contacts while most of the phones design it to either accept the call or to dial a call. Moreover, this button is not customisable. When you open an contacts and select a contact, you cannot call that perticular contact directly by pressing the Green button unless you have both the name and phone number of the contact in an line. In case, if the name of the contact is large, the phone number is stored in the next line for which, you need to select the phone number to dial that number.(Finding the contact is not enough, the phone number has to be selected to call them which is tedious)
The red button has multiple functionality which is not convinient and effective. A single press on this button will turn off the screen to save power. The same button is used to end an call. Adding to this, when you hold this button for a while, it will disable the wireless signal and let you use the remaining features which doesn't use the signal. The wireless signal can be restored when you hold this button again for a while. The phone do not have any option to completely switch it off.
The lid to cover the battery is very irritating. It takes all your patience away to place back the lid. Unfortunately, the MicroSD card slot is placed in such a way that, the lid has to be opened to pop in-out the MicroSD card
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KEYBOARD
Apart from the cramped keyboard, some of the keys are missing basic functionalities. There is no key provided to completely enable the keyboard in numeric mode. The funny part is that, the sysmbol '_' (Underscore) cannot be typed without pressing spacebar. The "alt" button only shows the symbols when there is a space. So, in order to type it, you have to press spacebar button, type underscore symbol and then go back to delete the unneccesary space given.
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CAMERA
The pictures and videos are coming out dull (not bright enough)
Bluetooth
When you transfer a file from PC to Palm via bluetooth, the palm directly stores in the in-built memory rather than asking for the desired location(Palm/SD)
The screen will keep the light on until the file gets transfered no matter how long the file transfer may be.
The transfered files are hard to locate.
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MICROPHONE
The quality is not to the expectation.
Battery
The battery doenot long enough. Even without using much of the applications, the batteries drain quickly.
Office Documents
Unless the device is loaded with an external memory card, the office files cannot be droped into the phone. The pdf documents doesnot open properly.
Navigation
The return/back button is not provided in this phone. This makes the navigation through applications into a hassle. As you can not go one step back, you have to directly jump to the home.
Will Active Sync update Subfolders in the mail inbox and tasks (from exchange to the Centro email/tasks)? The 700P doesn't sync either of those (it does main Inbox, Contacts & Calendar).
Will the unlocked 680 work on the sprint network? The phone is 1 yr old. Sprint says no. Thanks Mg
does this phone sync with microsoft outlook? I currently have a hp 6500 series smart phone that is blowing up and need to upgrade/replace. AT&T does not offer the hp phones anymore, I have my calendar full of stuff and would hate to get a phone that would require me to move all my stuff to a new calendar and contacts system. The AT&T website says it will sync with outlook, but I have not seen it mentioed ANYWHERE else?
i have had 2 centros, my fault one got wet. i love the one i have , it can download podcast from internet large mp3 files. yes it does sync w/outlook and yahoo. keyboard could be bigger but i do have large fingers. overall 8/10
yes, the centro sycs to outlook. and the ms exchange setup is RIDICULOUSLY easy. allows up to 5 email accounts to be synced with it.
overall the menu navigation is pretty easy, although I can't figure out how to delete the pre-loaded for pay applications like Get MobiTV, Get XM Radio from the applications menu.
the biggest con for me so far is the lack of a back button (as mentioned above) -- it makes navigation a bit time consuming and it just annoys me to have to add the bulk of a headset adapter. yes, there's an option for stereo for whoever asked that--the factory preset is mono so you have to go into the menu to change it.
my other complaint is that this has the most retarded alarm clock feature (as part of world clock) i've seen on any phone. can anyone recommend an application i can download to take its place?
I'm new to the palm family of products--does anyone have any recommendations for applications (for just about anything)--especially free applications? I checked cnet and they didn't really have anything. other google searches turn up applications i wouldn't download without a recommendation, ditto for the palm site itself.
Also, I'm not sure how many men will be using this unless they have extremely slim, small girly fingers. Even I find the keyboard a little small at times.
Overall, I have to say I'm pretty happy with it even though I wish it were able to accept larger than a 4g memory card. Good value for the price, which I got on sale at at&t for a net price of $79.99 after 100 rebate and resigning my contract which had expire for another 2 years.
Software Specials
Treo WM Games
