Treo 650 Cingular Update

How sure are you about the TMo date of May 2005? Any info on the unlocked/unbranded GSM from P1? Will it be available at the same time the Cingular one is? I'm with TMo and would like to stay there...but May is just too long! By then they'll probably have the Treo 700!

Can someone purchase the non contract one and use it with T-Mobile? I thought that if I don't sign a contract I should be able to do whatever I want with it, no? I'm currently on T-Mobile, and I don't feel like switching to CIngulars overpriced data plans. And someone else is getting me the Treo, so price isn't an issue.

I thought it was coming on on wednesday 26th not the 27th?

Paris,

TMo is more than a guess and less than a certainty... Unlocked GSM: my educated guess is 30 days after Cingular release.

Neps,

Yep, you'll be able to buy the unlocked Treo 650 and used it with Cingular, AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile (or any other GSM network in the world). Best bet if you don't care about the $100 or $150 carrier rebates or as in your case the house is paying.

Jnetty,

Rumors were 26 or 27th but now seems confirmed that it will be 27th so I changed the countdown date.

Cheers, A.

i found these the other night: 2 different cingular $50 rebates for the treo 650 which expire jan 31st
http://onlinestore1.cingular.com/html/RebateForms/treo.pdf
http://onlinestore.cingular.com/html/RebateForms/WIL.pdf

also, re: paris' post, i have read that the cingular 650 will be locked even if you buy it without the contract and it will be up to them (or some glorious hacker) to unlock it for use on t-mo's, or any other carrier's network. i can only hope that what i've read is incorrect because i'm on t-mo as well and really don't feel like switching to a significantly more expensive cingular plan, or waiting the 6 months for t-mo to get off its ass.

I am having a hard time finding some detailed information on the Exchange Syncronization feature on the treo 650. The data sheet indicates "Built-in Microsoft Exchange Server ActiveSync® protocol for direct corporate email and calendar sync with Exchange Server 2003". What does this really mean? How does it work?

I am looking to replace my blackberry device with the 650 when it comes out for Cingular. However I want to make sure it solves some of the email problems I have with blackberry.

1. I don't use the Blackberry enterprise software and just setup the T-Mobile Blackberry Web Client to POP the email from the Exchange server. When it does this, it marks all messages as read. Then when I open up Outlook on my desktop, all my messages have already been read. With the Treo, can I access my Exchange email without Popping? or installing anything on the Exchange Server? Will I have this same problem?

2. The Blackberry only pops the emails in the root inbox, not sub-folders. If I setup a Server based rule to move messages to other folders, they do not get downloaded to the BB device.

Thanks for any insight

Well i guess you guys are to blame for what treocentral reports as a new feb 2 release date. they are obviously avoiding the 50 dollar rebate before jan 31, that you guys keep spreading. sometimes you gotta serve the greater good and not let all the cats out of the bag. dammit, another week!!!

Andrew...Thanks for your reply!
Let's see Treo 650
*February for Cingular
*March for P1 unlocked version (if you 1 month guess is right)
*May for TMo
...by then I would expect to hear an anouncemnt about the Treo 700...I mean this was supposed to be a "family of Treo's" , to qoate P1! May as well just wait for the Treo 700 and hope for Cobalt. Guess you can tell that the LONG WAIT and lack of solid info from P1 has dampened my enthusiasm for the 650.