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Another Future Treo 700? A real Treo 670?

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After our post last week dreaming up a future Treo 700, it appears that we started a trend  and now Treonauts elsewhere are either putting their creative juices to work and coming up with their own designs or unearthing shadowy pictures 'somewhere' in TreoLand.

In this case below, someone by the avatar name Choile over at TreoCentral decided that he wanted a 480x320 screen to fit within the existing Treo 650 body.  To achieve this he had to do away with all navigation keys and reduce the 5-Way navigation button to a minimum.  While the result is interesting it's obvious that it's not altogether practical though...  Still, kudos for the effort.

Out of the blue, in the same forum thread 'DNT' posted the pictures below purporting to be those of "a future Treo 670 running Windows Mobile?!?!?".  The story accompanying the post (copied below) makes no sense whatsoever so lending credence to these pictures as a future Treo version should be taken with a pinch of salt and these are much more likely to be images of a pre-production Treo 650 as 'Miradu' points out.

According to 'DNT':

"Actually the next version is gonna be a Treo 670. How do I know? This might sound cazy but some lady was trying to sell these to me a couple a weeks back. Figured they were hot so I didn't want to buy them. But she did let me check them out. From what I could tell it was functional... sorta. I couldn't get the phone to work... Either the ear piece was broken or I was just plain dumb =) So I tried connecting it to my bluetooth and see if I could make a call. It didn't bond. Anyways I check the OS and guess what... It was a Pocket PC one. Wasn't really familiar with it but I was able to see that it only had 32MB of memory too... funny huh? This really must be some pre-pre-pre production model because no one in their right minds would be using 32MB of memory for a pocket Pc. Of course since I wasn't familiar with it and it might had been somewhere else but I didn't see it. It was actually really slugish. I tried to hard reset it but the normal hold the power button and push the reset button didn't work. The one you see in the pic on with the screen on seem to be a GSM model because it had sim slot."

Also, you may have noticed that the keys bear some resemblance to those found on the BenQ P50 - not exactly a reference design...  For the moment I'll quite happily stick to my Treo 650 thank you (unless someone comes out to tell me that this one happens to have 256MB of memory...).

[Thanks Dutchtrumpet]

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by TASIS | Mar 11, 2005 3:10:08 PM

Regarding Choile's dream - you can eliminate the speaker and shift the screen up a bit if use Panasonic's A-TTP (Acoustic Touch Panel) which is effectively a LCD touch panel that is also a speaker. UK's New Transducers has "NXT SoundVu" technology, and these panels are already installed in some Japanese cell phones.

by MacDuff | Mar 12, 2005 6:12:56 AM

What I would like is a smartphone that includes all the goodies from Palm Tungsten T5, that is to say: Drivemode, the use of Office files, mp3 player, Bluetooth and 256MB memory, all the goodies from Treo, a bluetooth headset and (here is the part that they just haven't built yet) a wristworn bluetooth remote! All the other stuff really already exists, I could get this with a T5 and a bluetooth cellphone more or less, but it's really the remote that makes the dream. I'm thinking something like those Palm-powered wristwatch PDA:s that came out the other year, only the thing should not really store any info. It should just act as an operating tool, from which you can access things on the PDA, like the adress book, date book or the mp3 player, without having to dig up the actual PDA / phone from your pocket. And no cables, of course.
I can't really decide if I want the big screen from the T5, or the keyboard from the Treo, but I think I'm leaning towards the big screen.

Oh, and the phone should of course come with a belt clip. Does that make me a true geek? ;-)

by sebastian | Mar 12, 2005 12:47:01 PM

100% windows mobile !!!!!

HTC (high tech corporation) already built the mda and xda ppc phones as well as plenty of windows mobile powered phones! n1! wm rocks!

by me | Mar 12, 2005 4:29:26 PM

Windows Mobile… NOOOOO!!!

Crapola operating system? No thanks!

by Prasetio | Mar 14, 2005 7:30:28 AM

I think the best way to have the bigscreen and good keyboard is by using Slider :)
Sorta like MDA Mini with sliding keyboard.

And while they are at it... make it VGA screen too!:)

by Julian | Mar 14, 2005 11:39:04 AM

If you're going to put a big screen on a treo then dump the qwerty keys and give us good old fashioned graffiti supported by navigation keys and a numeric keypad (t9 input optional for when pen unsuitable). Those of us with big thumbs/fingers and experience of several graffiti based pdas would prefer it!

by harttj | Mar 14, 2005 6:42:29 PM

Why not just use a slide down keyboard/nav system so you can use the whole Treo 650 form to make a small 16:9 screen?

by dutchtrumpet | Mar 14, 2005 8:13:13 PM

by Sean | Apr 10, 2005 3:11:38 PM

I would like to see a more powerful IR transmitter too.

by sixto rivera | Jul 22, 2005 3:22:16 PM

is there anyway possible I could transfer my mp3 player to my sound files instead of recording it and would the new treo would have a better speaker.

by Steve Packard | Aug 17, 2005 10:08:49 PM

Here are some of the things I'd like to see on my fantasy Treo 700

1. Lots of internal memory (1 gigabyte or more. Maybe as much as 8gb)

2. Integrated GPS. (GPS support on the treo 650 is good, but you need an external unit)

3. Wifi. Of course this would be great. Especially if you could set up the phone as a wifi access point and connect through it. But I'm sure that the wireless companies won't go for that!

4. EVDO support (reportedly it will have this)

5. A megapixel or more digital camera (reportedly it will have this). A flash would be nice too, but may take up too much room.

6. An LED Flashligh. This might sound like a stupid idea, but I met a girl from england who's Eurpoean phone had a built in high-power LED for a flashlight. It was actually very useful.

7. Streaming video support. Reportedly MobiTV is working on support for the treo-600 and 650, but this may be vaporware. I'd really like to be able to watch live TV on my treo.

Anyone have any other ideas?


by David | Sep 6, 2005 12:11:53 AM


by Laurie | Sep 23, 2005 11:35:09 PM

Thinner, the thickness of a Palm 5; 500Meg memory; 1/2 the weight; bigger screen; it could fold like the motorola Razor; or fold and rotate like the old Sonys -- only Razor thickness.

by Laurie | Sep 23, 2005 11:50:04 PM

..... better speaker phone, same quality as the Nextel phones. How about available with Nextel? Better sound quality, louder on hand set too; Better quality camera, how about 2 megapix; Ipod compatible; 10 to 40 Gigabite memory cards or add on; WiFi; Flash on camera; better video quality; Standard with car charger and Blue tooth with longer lasting charge; Palm: Original graffiti; Original shortcut key function; Original ToDo list option; ability to immediatly backup to Palm software, simultanius with Outlook (Old Palm to do was more efficient than new and Outlook; Address, ability to lookup by Company name, as well as the new way (first letter of first name and last name); 2 letter quick keys on phone part (currently can only use 1 letter); Email: Goodlinks but with Palm Address function (which is much better); HURRY!

by Rabbeka | Sep 29, 2005 12:35:49 AM

The Treo 700 must have:
-more memory
-much better camera
-Better battery
By the way, I use the treo 600 as a flashlite sometimes...(In the car... even outdoors in the dark)Just make sure that a light color screen is on.

by Mitchy | Aug 1, 2006 12:05:45 PM

I really like that big touch screen idea, but I do agree with the others that say a sliding keyboard would be the solution. I really love the way the old Audiovox ppc6600 looked, if Palm made one that had a design something like that, it would be great. KEEP THE PALM OS THOUGH, windows mobile is too complicated. I would love to see the sliding keyboard, Even though this is an old forum, I'd love to see the screen rotate from regular to widescreen. I love my 650, but I'm getting tired of the same old design that Palm has used since the 600. The 700p and 700w both look like they need a look that is more interesting. I think they need a dramatic change, make it look sharper, more eye-appelaing. I think a bigger and rotateable screen with a sliding QWERTY keyboard would be a great oppurtunity for Palm to attract the younger crowd and still please the buisiness crowd. I also had another idea I'd like to propose. I always hated those holsters that always broke. I always hated those ugly cases with the belt clip. I think there should be a clip within the battery cover. The battery cover would be replaceable. Now with that belt clip you can show off your Treo without those ugly cases and holsters.
Thanks for reading whoever does.

by Hat | Aug 15, 2006 3:26:53 PM

At the risk of sounding VERY stoopid, why doesn't palm come up with some kind of instructions on actually using the graffiti function on a Treo 700p?? I've looked everywhere - the quick reference guide from Verizon, the treo website (where it tells me how to find out what kind of graffiti I have loaded, but not how to actually use it)? Can anyone give me the place that actually has the instructions? I live by graffiti and can't even get to it.


by Doug | Dec 23, 2006 3:14:51 PM

Seems graffiti has been omitted from the 700p, not sure why, but I am not very happy about it!!

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