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TCPMP | OMG!!! Now FULL Video on our Treo

Update Nov 06 - The Core Pocket Media Player (TCPMP) has now been further upgraded in a full commercial version called CorePlayer and available for both PalmOS and Windows Mobile Treo Smartphones.

There's a new application that is sure to rock a boat or two in the Treo community and it is very good news indeed for all Treonauts who like me may have been waiting to take their video-on-the go experience to the next level...

I've just finished evaluating a new open source (completely free) media player called The Core Pocket Media Player (TCPMP) and I can tell you that although it hasn't even come out of alpha testing yet that this is one monster of a media player - particularly when it comes to video.  It has been as close to 'video Nirvana' on my Treo 650 as I believe I'm likely to get.

               

TCPMP supports all the usual video formats such as .AVI (DIVX/XVID) and .MPG but additionally and uniquely also offers playback for .OGM (OGG media video) and .MKV (Matroska) - basically it can play any video file that you can see fit to throw at it.  Moreover, it can also play music in various formats although the interface experience is a very basic one and at any rate you're unlikely to use it as your main or even secondary music player.  The only thing currently lacking is AC3 audio support.  The various existing supported codecs include:

Audio codecs:

  • Mpeg 1 LayerIII (mp3)
  • Ogg Vorbis
  • Musepack
  • Adpcm, uLaw

Video codec:

  • DivX
  • XviD
  • Mpeg4-SP (plus B-frame support)
  • Mpeg1
  • M-JPEG

However all of this is not by a wide margin the most important bit of news about TCPMP.  The best part is that our days of having to re-encode each of our video files for playback on a 320x320 or other small handheld screen size are gone.  That's right, you have to do exactly zero, nada, niente to playback any video currently on your hard drive and view it on your Treo.  Just copy the file to your SD card and you can start watching it.

As I mentioned previously, TCPMP's interface is nothing particularly pretty to look at but to be honest with this video performance it could not have one at all and I wouldn't care less - just let me enjoy the fantastic playback.  The main screen offers you the standard backward/play/forward buttons, a full screen button to access the audio, video and general preferences.  Nothing more is needed.

I tested TCPMP with a couple of 700MB video files encoded at a high bitrate and 576x304 resolution and another at 624x336.  Both large screenshots in this post are full size 320x320 ones of these clips on my Treo and as you'll be able to appreciate the quality is absolutely stunning. 

               

I am ecstatic to report that I had absolutely no problem loading these files, watching them and fast forwarding through them in the highest quality that you can imagine on our small Treo screen with full lip sync and no video image stuttering whatsoever.  If this is not a milestone in Treo video playback then I don't know what is.

I've spent the better part of my day demoing this to anyone within eyesight to make sure that I haven't been dreaming the whole thing up.  I admit that I'm still a little overwhelmed.  TCPMP is absolutely a_m_a_z_i_n_g and following my post yesterday I guess that now our Treo can also be considered among the best portable video players that money can buy.

The Core Pocket Media Player v0.63 (TCPMP)

[Thanks Ben]

Treonauts love monster applications...


Posted by Andrew on April 15, 2005 at 05:51 PM

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Comments

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by Trevor | Nov 22, 2005 2:53:38 PM

I am new owner of a treo 650 and fairly ignorant to how to utilize it's functions. I think it is cool that the phone can play dvd's. I purchase pocket dvd studio to copy a dvd. Do I need a player application to view it on my Treo because I can't get it to work in Pic's and Videos

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by Cinder | Nov 29, 2005 7:07:57 PM

Please help me get audio working with TCPMP! I followed all the directions to get it working (including installing the mpeg4 plugin)and have video but no audio. I tried installing the tcpmp_aac_plugin and it still won't work. I tried downgrading from .71 to .66 and no luck. I have no idea how to uninstall things from my Treo 650. Please help, this is so frustrating it has driven me to tears.

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by Shrinklupa | Dec 8, 2005 6:40:17 AM

When I heard about TCMPM I was ecstatic - but figuring out how to make it work was problematic and I offer these suggestions for newbies like me.
1. Download Fair Share to your computer
2. Download TCMPM - either to your card or your TREO
3. Copy a launcher to the card. I found the standard launcher inadequate, so took just the launcher file from zlauncher.
4. Run your video through FairShare. It is virtually automatic, and the only thing you have to choose is the resolution. Others on discussion boards run at 700 - I've been running at 300-400 - the only issue is how much memory you want to use. I kinda think of it as like a camera - you can still get a good picture (particularly for the small screen) with low resolution.
4. Having gotten that far, where are the movies? Save them from FairShare to a dedicated file on your PC, then drag them to your card.
5. So, where are they? This is the little trick. When you run TCMPM on your machine, "click" the TCMPM logo in the upper left corner, then choose slog, and voila, you can choose what movie to play.

When I finally figured this all out (after many hours of frustration) I was ecstatic!

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by Brian | Dec 22, 2005 8:11:58 PM

Your mileage may vary depending on the decoder, but straight MPEG1 files from EyeTV (Mac TV tuner) work just great. However, I usually transcode with the "PSP Movie" setting and get good tradeoff in quality/size.

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by landoncube | Dec 27, 2005 2:41:40 PM

Any suggestions on tracking down 'Fair Share?' I can't find any reference of it. I have TCMPM installed, but I don't know how to get video from a dvd to my quick install...

Treo Rocks %)

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by landoncube | Dec 27, 2005 3:06:22 PM

Got it! Not Fair Share, 'Fair Use Wizard' It is free and works fine.
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by Bob | Dec 27, 2005 11:46:25 PM

I am trying to play Windows Medial Video file (created with Windows Movie Maker) on the Treo 650 with TCMP, but failed. Help!

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by RodStr | Dec 29, 2005 10:15:33 PM

WellFargo bank account access on Treo 650... I just upgraded from a Treo 600 (Sprint) to a Treo 650 - Verizon and now I cannot access my bank account info on WellsFargo.com. Does anyone have any idea why and/or a solution to allow me access now?

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by John | Jan 3, 2006 10:49:48 PM

I downloaded The Christmas Party episode of The Office from itunes and transfered it over to my 650 but TCPMP won't play it. Just get the cover photo. What should I do? Thanks.

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by sammy | Jan 18, 2006 3:34:31 PM

hey..i'm really frustrated. i was happy with the tcpmp..but now i can't get the audio part, the same problem alot of ppl have. something about AAC decocer not found. is there any links to dl it from?? thanx..plz!!

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by Mean Troy Dean | Jan 19, 2006 2:09:59 PM

DVD to Treo650 using Pocket DVD Wizard HELP PLEASE
I've search everywhere but can't seem to figure out why I can't get my file on my SD card.
Used Pocket DVD wizard to convert movie and created file. It seems straight forward and easy to use BUT when I go to drop it on the "quick install" an error message says "unable to add "dvdtrial.avi" to External Volume.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong.
I will be internally grateful for your feedback.

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by craig | Jan 23, 2006 5:42:28 PM

I have been using TCPMP for about a month now with an ACC file that I found on the web. Now just the other day I went watch a video on my phone and I get "ERROR: Player: MPEG4 ACC Audio decoder not included!.....) What happened?

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by Mean Troy Dean | Jan 26, 2006 11:00:55 AM

Come to find out I needed to load Card Export II and it worked like a charm.
This solved the problem I had when I ran Fairuse and Pocket DVD Wizard

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by andrea | Feb 7, 2006 12:03:29 AM

Help. I am truly a novice here. I have downloaded a movie from tivo to my computer and now want to put it on my sd card. I don't have dvd on this computer so cannot run pqdvd. Any suggestions?

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by Jason | Feb 7, 2006 2:43:39 AM

Andrea - You can use a program like TVHarmony to encode your .tivo files that you transferred from your tivo to your PC. Using this program, you can make the files smaller both in screen size and in storage size. Try this link to find the program. Hope that helps.
http://www.tvharmony.com/main/

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by bcook | Feb 9, 2006 1:56:34 PM

I love TCMP, but none of the links listed above seem to work to download it. Is there another mirror site?

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by 650 User | Feb 14, 2006 12:25:39 PM

Thank you all for the useful tips and comments. I have downloaded TCPMP on my Treo 650 and have the following questions:

1.) How can one delete the files that have been downloaded? I don't seem to find any delete option within TCPMP itself. I guess one could delete the files using a card reader on a PC, but still, it would be great if I could figure how to delete directly from my Treo while using TCPMP.

2) I have been having trouble opening up some pictures (jpg files). I get the following error message " Error: MJEP: This type of motion-JPEG format is not supported". However, this is weird because I can open other pictures which are in exactly the same format and TCPMP recognizes them without a problem. All of the files are pictures I've taken with my digital camera which I've downoladed on my memory card. Any ideas why TCPMP is being selective on what it is opening?

I would appreciate any thoughts/tips on the above. Thanks.

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by Harry Wu | Feb 20, 2006 8:26:55 AM

I am a Macintosh user and currently using Handbrake to convert DVD to MPEG4. I can watch the video on my TREO 650 but with no audio sound at all.

It always show the message:

(ERROR:Player:MPEG4AAC Audio Decoder not included. It was removed from official install package because of interllectual property).

Can someone help me please, Thank you so much! I really appreciate!

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by Andrew | Feb 20, 2006 8:45:15 AM

Harry - TCPMP no longer officially supports the AAC audio decoder.

You can learn more about this and download it here: http://www.corecodec.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=29&topic=1843.msg12240;topicseen

Cheers, A.

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by hammer | Mar 2, 2006 2:59:56 AM

I've seen the same question asked several times with no answer.. I am having the same issue. How do you get the converted file to your sd card in a manner that is conducive to playback with the core player? Using the palm desktop software gets the file to the card but converts it to an .asf extension which the player won't read. Trying to drag the file from my harddrive directly to the card causes errors. I noticed the card is formatted to FAT file system is this an issue? Should it be FAT32 or will the 650 even read that format? It's really great to know my 650 can playback .avi files.. it'd be even greater to actually see it working.. aaaaarrrrrrgggh! :)

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by Dawson | Mar 6, 2006 11:47:51 AM

I got a treo 650 and it's so great i love it. i also got a data cable for it, i update and download stuff for it every day if you need any help with you mail me

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by cashy | Mar 25, 2006 12:16:27 AM

hey guys can any one help me i tried downloading the player but im not finding it on the treo 650 can any one tell me how to download it and doest it play avi files ill be very great full thanks guys

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by Hugo | Mar 25, 2006 8:01:48 AM

Many have ask this question and no one has given a response. Pls help us! I too am looking how to get the .avi files to the treo650 without using the 'quick install' which converts it to .asf file and tcpmp doesn't recognize format. HELP!

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by Chris | Mar 25, 2006 11:48:23 AM

Any suggested software to convert DVR MS files for play back on Treo 650 with TCPMP?

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by cpr_carpenter | Apr 4, 2006 12:00:49 AM

For all who are trying to figure out how to get .avi (or whatever format) to your treo the fastest and easiet is to buy a SD card reader (bought mine from CirCity for $14.) Then just drag & drop file to SD card, then pop it in your treo and viola, it's there.

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