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Coming This Monday: The Ed & Bill Show Present...

I just received this notice in two separate emails from Palm and the Windows Mobile group…  For all those Treonauts still doubting that the Treo 700w running Windows Mobile 5 was for real then the short press release below should help to convince you…

Palm, Inc., Microsoft Corporation and Verizon Wireless Announce Press Conference for Sept. 26

“Ed Colligan, Palm, Inc. (Nasdaq:PALM) president and chief executive officer; Bill Gates, Microsoft chairman and chief software architect; and Denny Strigl, president and chief executive officer of Verizon Wireless, invite the news media to join them for a press conference on Monday, Sept. 26, at The Palace Hotel in San Francisco beginning at 9 a.m. PDT.”

I will naturally be one of the first in line for this press conference on Monday but in the meantime we can put some dots together to safely assume the obvious that:

  • Palm has licensed Windows Mobile
  • Palm will release its first device with this OS which will be called the Treo 700w
  • Verizon will be the first (maybe exclusive?) carrier to market it
  • The Treo 700w will become commercially available shortly (mid-Q4???)

Currently the biggest doubt on my mind remains whether Palm will simultaneously also release a Treo 700p running PalmOS or not.  Some are arguing either that the Treo 650 is doing so well that Palm has no immediate incentive to introduce another one or that Palm has not yet made any significant progress on OS updates to warrant the release of a new device.  I personally feel that there are sufficiently small improvements that could be made to warrant a Treo 700p launch.  I’m curious to see what you think is most likely to happen next week via the poll below.

Treonauts on the Treo 700
Which device(s) do you believe that Palm will be announcing next week at CTIA?

  Treo 700 w (Windows Mobile) only
  Treo 700p (PalmOS) only
  Both the Treo 700w and Treo 700p
  None of the above

Treonauts want all of the above

Posted by Andrew on September 24, 2005 at 12:57 AM

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by Kyle | Sep 23, 2005 5:32:38 PM

I think the real question is...

Is the Treo 700w just a Treo 650 running Windows Mobile?

So far I haven't seen any improvements. From all the pictures I have seen, the buttons are the same (except for making the 'call' buttons square), the case is the same (except for rounded bottom corners), it has no WiFi, and we have no reason to believe that it has a faster processor speed or more memory!

So far, except for the addition of EVDO, it sounds like more of just an OS swap. If anything, Palm might just be giving it a higher number to create buzz and make people feel better about buying a repackaged product.

Personally I won't even be tempted with the 700w. I have had Windows Mobile in the past and other than the luxury of rebooting daily, you don't get much. Palm is more simple, stable, and lightweight (programs are a few hundred k instead of a few mb).

Kudos to palm for tapping into a part of the market that they can't reach with Palm - I have friends who feel the same way about Palm that i do about Windows :) - but I will gladly wait my turn for the 4gb, WiFi, EVDO, 3megapixel Treo whatever-they-wanna-call-it!

by Art | Sep 23, 2005 6:30:42 PM

I definitley think that this 700w is more of a publicity stunt, i mean, why would Palm decide to suddenly decide to switch OS? I could see them doing this to "diversify" and attempt to corner the market. I mean no other things based on all the hype Ive heard comes too mind...but i would definitley like to see a 700p featuring cobalt....

by A. Davis | Sep 23, 2005 7:35:11 PM

"Admission will be limited to members of the business and technology news media who present current press credentials. Registration will begin at 8 a.m. outside the Twin Peaks conference room on the second floor of the hotel."

Hope you have your press credentials for that line you're planning to be first in... :)

by Matt | Sep 23, 2005 8:37:44 PM

Well this makes me kinda sad, if its just a 650 clone with Windows mobile then whats the point besides calling at the 700??

by Christian | Sep 24, 2005 3:04:52 AM

I also will have no look into the upcoming Windows Treo...

What i am waiting for here in europe is the 4G treo with UMTS - Wifi is a pain in the ass over here and data flatrates start to come up here. With UMTS i won't need WIFI!

Although there are some things that are better with windows mobile:
- ActiveSync transports more information into calendar and contacts from outlook (what a surprise)
- true multi tasking (program switching IS faster)

Besides that i have daily or every other day resets/reboots on my ipaq 2210 (onyl used as an navigation system) so no need for that feeling again!

by Tam Hanna | Sep 24, 2005 11:53:33 AM

I don't beleive that the Windows Line from PalmOne will live long because the competition simply is too strong, way to strong. The HTC unviersal is sold for 50$ in Austria...
Read my full oppinion here:
Best regards
Tam Hanna

by Permanent4 | Sep 25, 2005 2:02:25 AM


I think we better come to terms with the possibility that there might never be a Treo 700p. PalmSource has never gotten its act together with regard to Cobalt, and the proposed Linux-based Palm OS is nowhere near ready. Palm might even be better off licensing the Symbian OS and creating a Treo 700s.

I have very little interest in the 700w because it's Windows. (Pfah!) Business customers, however, are going to be on this thing like white on rice, because it's the right form factor and (for them) the right OS. The EVDO helps quite a bit, too. I think the 700w will be pretty successful, and if I were in the market for a QWERTY smartphone with Windows, the Treo 700w would be atop my list, right there with the Motorola Q.

Regardless, I've got my 650, and I'm holding onto it for a while...

by TazUk | Sep 25, 2005 2:18:41 PM

If the screen res of 240 x 240 is true then in some ways this is a step backwards. Sure the Windows PDA/Smartphone market is bigger but then so are the companies competing in it ;o)

by Felipe | Sep 25, 2005 10:20:01 PM

they probably already have POS device in the chamber. I'm sure we will see another palm device. I dont think it will be announced this week.

now that that japanese comapany (access?) bought palmsource, i'm sure we will see some progress on colbalt or the linux hybrid.

I dont see palm abondoning POS anytime soon, but delivering a WM device is a good thing for them, especially if they can tweak the system like they did with Palm.

The form factor and the size is what makes the treo unbeatable, and many have tried.

by | Oct 17, 2005 10:37:19 PM

I agree with you the way you view the issue. I remember Jack London once said everything positive has a negative side; everything negative has positive side. It is also interesting to see different viewpoints & learn useful things in the discussion.

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