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Treo 700w Finally In Treonauts' Hands!!!

Santa Claus has been very kind to Treonauts this year as he decided to drop by early and leave behind a brand spanking new production unit of the soon to be released Treo 700w running Windows Mobile.  I am naturally ecstatic that it is now finally in my hand…

Side-by-side with my beloved Treo 650 the new Treo 700w (below left) really only has but a few cosmetic body changes with a somewhat ‘squarer’ look including the keyboard which now has rounded square buttons instead of the oval ones found on our Treo 650.

I am barely getting started using Windows Mobile for the first time but below I briefly entered a new appointment in the Calendar (left) and tested the keyboard in Notes.


Also, as I had correctly guessed before, all existing Treo 650 accessories will work perfectly well with the Treo 700w and here below I test the Seidio Retractable Duo Cable and the standard Palm Cradle.


Evidently at the moment I’m trying to catch up as quickly as possible on better understanding a little better how Windows Mobile works as well as recording the most obvious differences between using the Treo 650 and Treo 700w.  I plan to post my findings over the next couple of weeks as I go about discovering everything that I can or can’t do with the new Treo 700w and deciding how much of my affections it will win.

Treonauts always get their hands on the good stuff

Posted by Andrew on December 10, 2005 at 02:38 PM

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by Jordan | Dec 10, 2005 4:08:58 PM

Keep us updated!

by Amin | Dec 10, 2005 4:09:29 PM

Is it as fast as a 650?

Most W.M. devices are slow especially compared to the Treo 650.

by Dr. Mark Lipschitz | Dec 10, 2005 4:50:13 PM

Is the decrease in screen resolution noticable?

by brandon | Dec 10, 2005 8:45:37 PM

Does it clean dishes?

by A Nonymous | Dec 10, 2005 10:52:48 PM

The screen looks dimmer than the 650 next to it (but the colors look better, where the 650 looks "washed" color-wise). Is this the case? Is the 700W dimmer? Also, what about the resolution. Gotta know the final/true resolution and screen "quality". PLEASE! :)

by Sam | Dec 11, 2005 1:46:00 AM

Did you receive any hint or indication about the release date?

by Mike | Dec 11, 2005 7:53:17 AM

Just because, it has larger number (700 vs 650) it does not make it better. I am surprised with people who got caught by marketing ploy :)
FYI, BenQ P50 has keyboard, Megapixel camera, keyboard like treo and larger screen (Standard pocketPC) is a better phone IMHO
You can see it here:
and here:

I don't want to be a party pooper but Treo650 is way better than treo 700

by PPCMD | Dec 11, 2005 11:29:34 AM

Its pretty much a forgone conclusion that the screen is 240*240 since WM does not support 320*320 (outside of the emulator). This would also tie into several larger software vendors announcing support for the screen (which they already do with the iPAQ 6515).

WM devices also allow for more or even better brightness control (the Treo 600 was terrible) so I would make a final determination with the default contrast setting and the angle of the camera shot to make a brightness comparison between the Treo 700w vs Treo 650.

by Rick | Dec 11, 2005 2:51:30 PM


I think your logic/arguments are a little off kelter.

1. I don't think anyone is saying the t700w is "better". OS is preference. I for one don't care for Palm...that doesn't mean MS is better or worse, just means personally I don't care for it. So in my eyes the t700w is very appealing.

2. BENQ is a GSM device. Therefore this really isn't a valid argument. The t700w is going to be a CDMA device for at least the first 6-months (which is what the test unit is)...therefore for us CDMA patrons the BENQ isn't even an option. Also, I don't believe the BENQ is a WindowMobile 5.0 device. I think a more valid comparison would be the vx6700 or i730 (soon to be 5.0 with rom update).

by A. Davis | Dec 11, 2005 3:19:18 PM

I hope you're testing this stateside... I didn't think a Verizon EVDO phone work in the UK...

by Antoine of MMM | Dec 11, 2005 5:55:17 PM

This is some great information. I am glad to see that you were able to get your hands on it and talk about it. Granted, I wish it were a Palm model, but from the info that has been coming out, everyone wants a piece of this one. I look forward to the full review.

Mental note: how the heck does that trackback piece work, putting that into my link for the site doesnt ever seem to work :(

by Snoop Dog | Dec 11, 2005 8:51:58 PM

That is some dope shit. Canst wait to get me one of them lil' muthas. That redefines Treozizzle, know whats I mean my bizzle?

by evan | Dec 12, 2005 4:42:19 AM

looks nice cant what until i get mine from my company in a few weeks

by Bob | Dec 12, 2005 7:44:57 AM

Is the 700W going to work with the Verizon EVDO network??

by Antoine | Dec 12, 2005 9:03:49 AM

To Evan;
The 700w first comes out for VZW and will work with its EVDO network. Be happy, its what ya might want :D

by earl e adopter | Dec 12, 2005 10:34:36 AM

I am extremely interested in your opinion of this device. Please be brutally frank about it. Recently I picked up a ppc 6700 on Sprint to replace my aging and malfunctioning Treo 600. I passed on the Treo 650because I figured its a little old now. Maybe the issues I experienced with the ppc 6700 are just typical early adopter woes, but for now my advice is avoid this overpriced piece of junk. Palm's recent decision to ditch HTC as a manufacturing partner is welcome and overdue. Perhaps Palm can salvage something out of their pathetic ( Palm OS R.I.P.) situation by finally making that dogawful WinMob OS work like it should have from the beginning. I sincerely wish them success in this sow's ear/silk purse venture. However, for now I will be using the Samsung MM-940 which is cheaper, has EVDO, has a better camera, runs Opera Mini (excellent app!), runs Google Local for Mobiles (awesome!) and has a built-in mp3/video player. And storage card slot. Feature phones are quickly closing the gap!

by Shwaydogg | Dec 12, 2005 10:38:07 PM

"earl e adopter" you should change your name to "late abstractor" you obviously know nothing about the Treo 650 and have no business talking at this site. The gap you speak of between the 650 and “feature phones” is a mile long. The Treo 650 is not a “little old now” my any means. In fact it's more like a youthful teenager. It is so young that they can hardly think of any upgrades in the 700, in fact they mostly gave it downgrades. One of theses downgrades was switching to the pathetic windows mobile OS. The palm OS is far superior to the windows OS. Palm has loads more software that can match any advantages windows might have by also being many of our desktop OS’s. The windows OS is slow and wasteful; the Palm OS is fast and succinct. Obviously your naivety stems from the fact that you do not own a Treo 650, because otherwise you would know the 650’s true powers, so I forgive you "earl e adopter/late abstractor".

by James | Dec 13, 2005 7:24:41 PM

I had the O2 XDA2 (aka MDA2 etc) which was WM2003 and the thing was sooo buggy and crashed loosing all my contacts multiple times. In the end I had to sell it after 6 months because I felt it was unuseable. The Treo 650 is just fabulous in comparison, I really hope that Palm won' stop their support for the PalmOS though it could certainly do with some improvement.

My wish list for the 700p would be more internal storage for apps, bluetooth 1.2 or 2 so I can use my headset and BT gps in the car, slimmer form factor (no damned ariel!), 1MP camera for those occasional snaps and wifi support inbuilt or at the least a workable SD solution and finally a little bit more CPU grunt for playing movies. On the PalmOS side they really need to get their asses into gear and update that OS a bit, some real multi tasking support would be great, GPS and phone usage and a few other situations make the current OS a pain.

The hardware specs should be easy for Palm, lets hope they can innovate a bit maybe give the form fact a big squeeze, look at what Apple can get in their iPods

by ncawthon | Dec 14, 2005 4:47:35 AM

Any idea if MS Pocket PC will be able to be installed on 650s?

by stephen gardner | Dec 14, 2005 4:50:29 PM

what about old palm users? Will they be able to restore all there old data into Treo 700W.

by jordan | Dec 15, 2005 5:35:22 AM

I'm sorry but i have had three verizon treo 650's and while it was far and away the best pda/smartphone I have used it was far from perfect. Palm OS is past its prime, stalled, and is clogged with useless debris. I'm not saying the WM5 is perfect but I'm excited to see what Palm, Microsoft, and Treo700 can bring to the table.

I don't see why people get so cranky and why they hate the 700. It's not a downgrade by any means. Sure the screen has a lower resolution but in the day to day tasks not to mention the fact that with that resolution you can use all of the apps written for windows mobile which is fast overtaking Palm's software, it's not that big of a deal. I think the new keyboard will be much better and like the new lines. The ability to have push email is great and the customization of WM5 looks fun.

All in all, 650 owners don't have to rush out to upgrade but personally, I want to be first in line.

by jordan | Dec 15, 2005 2:15:27 PM

anyway we can get an idea of how you like it?? Is it just ok? do you hate it? the keyboard, the screen, etc? just a quick summary: great, ok, or it sucks.

by Andrew | Dec 15, 2005 2:20:17 PM

Jordan - I recognize that a lot of Treonauts would like to have my personal view on the Treo 700w but at this stage it is simply too early for me to make any sort of judgement. Having said this, it definitely does not 'suck'...

Cheers, A.

by jordan | Dec 15, 2005 8:54:22 PM

all i wanted to know. =)

it's just OK, isn't it...darn...

by Mark | Dec 19, 2005 2:47:38 PM

Any release date for the Treo 700w yet?

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