Treo Nitro = Hollywood? + Treo Lennon?

hey these are even better than those half blurry pictures of the hollywood! lol

by the way andrew, how does the treonauts worldwide counter work? its actually below 4,000,000 for your info. not sure where you got that count from. but is that just a hit counter to your treonauts blog? or is it users who actually registered their treo's? or is that just some random number generator that just keeps incrementing every so many seconds without it meaning anything?

Unfortunately, any Palm unit will not have 3G connectivity, as the current version of Palm OS, Garnet, cannot handle it. It comes down to this: UMTS requires the unit to handle simultaneous voice and data transmission, but POS cannot do that due to its lack of multitasking.

So the Palm unit unfortunately will most likely be the rumored lower priced version. In fact, given that Palm usually gives less features in its smaller models, I wouldn't be surprised if Palm didn't slap a lower res screen like on the Zire on this lower end unit, just to keep the cost lower.

So Cingular users will face a dilemma: in order to enjoy 3G, they will have to put up with the flaws of Windows Mobile, which are considerable. In order to enjoy the great usability of Palm they will have to sacrifice 3G, and perhaps a few other features.

Simon - you may want to read this post to find the answer to your question...

http://blog.treonauts.com/2006/03/sales_double_ov.html

Cheers, A.

thanks andrew. but that post doesn't say anything about the treonauts counter on the left hand side? where is that number coming from?

Simon - the counter represents cumulative Treo smartphone sales since the launch of the Treo 600 (see chart in my link). Current total sales are estimated based on last year Q2Q growth as well as year over year total growth. Thus it is estimated that there are now over 4 million Treonauts worldwide...

Cheers, A.

Bad news, very bad news.

My Treo 600 has been dying slowly from its well-known buzz problem for months now, Palm plan to launch their new phone not until October, and the roadmap for the US market is usually months ahead of the European market... Which means that I will be able to get a new treo in the first quarter of 2007 at the earliest, if at all...

And then there's this problem with PalmOS and UMTS. Can anyone confirm this?

Simon

As these various models are discussed, from time to time, one issue remains unclear: Are these *upgrades* to current models or *downgrades* (lower price points, etc.)? I see a lot of speculation about upcoming, but very, very little information about their *hierarchy*. Anyone?

If the new models are smaller, lighter, and don't have an antenna, I almost don't care what the features are. Even if it has the same performace as a 650, it's an "upgrade" for me.

[Just noticed I left out a word in my previous post. Should have been: "I see a lot of speculation about upcoming *models*.]

Anyway, for me, the issue is I don't want to buy a 700p GSM in the next few months, then have a better model (Nitro/Hollywood/Lennon/Whatever?) come out 3 months later. That would REALLY piss a lot of customers off.

Also, I honestly don't understand the aversion to the antenna. Don't get me wrong; if the Treo gets smaller, fantastic! But the antenna itself isn't a big deal to me. Also, keep in mind that they can only get *so* small -- because they have to be manipulated by human hands (at least until they do away with the concept of typing). :-) So there has to be a QWERTY keyboard, and there has to be a display. (You don't want *that* to get smaller, do you?) But hell -- if they can "trim the fat," plus make it thinner, I guess everybody wins.

To say I'm excited would be like claiming that the Indian Ocean is "soggy."

My Verizon contract can't expire soon enough. I'm so glad I didn't decide to get either of the 700s now.

It would be nice to know what those boxes witht the numbers and letters stand for. They obviously has some meaning in terms of describing the features of the phones.

That's my thinking too, and it is too bad we don't know what they mean.

The only difference between the two (block-speaking) is that the Lennon has a 'W' and 'P' block, whereas the Nitro does not. What do these stand for? 'W'iFi and....'P'-something?

...As a follow up (after-thought is great, huh?), the 'B' block may be Bluetooth, and the '10' block may be UMTS Class 10, or whatever it's called. (My Cingular knowledge is a little hazy.)

Actually, it's GPRS class 10...which wouldn't be too spectacular...

And the Palm Based Treo won't have UMTS...engineers have already weighed in on the fact that the Palm OS will not handle UMTS...

You're right--GPRS. Unless Palm has somehow hardwired Garnet, or aren't using it at all.....ahhhhhh, what's great about this speculation is that isn't based on any fact.

I'm just going to have fun following this for the next several months.