Finally! Treo Nitro: First Great Images!

this has me drooling

Looks awesome! Is there any chance at all that Sprint will carry this beautiful phone?

i dont get it. the only thing that it has over the 650 is the physical designs and more internal memory. it doesnt even have wifi and the camera still sucks!!! i expected much more. now i dont know if im going to run out and pay $600 for it when it comes out. . .

I'm confused, will it have 3G or not ?
And what about Wifi ?
I've read from PalmInfocenters that the Nitro will be a "lowrider" device, so it has just the plain old GSM.

Wifi only seems possible in the Windows version. And how about a proper (more powerful) infrared, so I can really use my Treo as a remote? What does it mean the battery capacity is 33% less? Why going back to a lame camera resolution? (Or will it be a dirt cheap model then?)

I can't understand why they don't put a better camera in this. I guess the reduced battery capacity (and life too?) is due to the reduced form factor. No wifi? I guess it is a Palm OS thing. I use a Treo 650 at the moment. The increased memory will be great. But I can't help but feel a little dissapointed. Palm always has the ability to bring great devices out with one or two major and glaring omissions. Might eventually jump ship to Windows OS at this rate.

Palm OS user since 1998

I can't help but feel disappointed if this all the Treo Nitro will offer. The only advantage over the 700p is a smaller form factor. On the other hand we have a sub-standard camera, battery with less capacity possibly resulting in worse battery life, still no wifi (if true), no development in the Palm OS (as expected).
Since Palm offers Wi-Fi in several regular PDAs I can't understand why they don't offer it in their flagship product.

Where is the upgrade in this? I love my 650 but a slimmer form factor + small increase in RAM does not an upgraded model make.

For this to be a compeling model it needs wifi, more memory if possible, better camera and bluetooth 1.2 or 2 to allow bluetooth headsets and GPS to be used at the same time.

I really wanted this to be a great model but its not going to be worth the price if these specs are the real deal.

Unless there's some major revelation, I'm going to go with the Lennon.

I think the main attraction of this phone will be price. Rumors have it that it will be branded as the Treo 680, which implies functionality somewhere between the 650 and the 700.

I also doubt that it will have 3G, most likely EDGE.

It is very possible that these lower specs may in fact be those of the rumoured low-cost Treo "Lowrider" and not the "Nitro"...

It seems reasonable to assume that Palm will make this next generation Treo as good or better than the 700p...

Cheers, A.

I was under the impression that there is no "Lowrider" anymore, as Palm said there was no such thing. I figured the Nitro is just the Lowrider under a different name.

And I also thought the PalmOS can't handle the GSM 3G radios.

this treo is running palm OS, so far anything official released to media outlets is that there is a windows mobile treo coming out for gsm. So this just could be the "low rider"/nitro or lennon that is on the way

Many engineers have commented on how the current Palm OS cannot handle 3G for GSM networks. Also, let's face it...Cingular is way behind the curve in rolling out 3G...if they release this in the next few months it's likely that in most markets a 3G signal won't even be available.

As for the comment:
"It seems reasonable to assume that Palm will make this next generation Treo as good or better than the 700p..."

My response is why? Why is it reasonable to assume that? It is just as reasonable to assume that Palm would come out with a lower cost, somewhat scaled down model, in essence deciding to compete at a lower price point. With the Q selling at 199 w/contract, and it rumored to come in at a lower price for GSM networks, it would seem just as reasonable that Palm wants to compete in that price point, and not get swept away by devices like the Q.

I certainly hope this is a more fully featured model, but I think it's sheer hope to declare that this is the probable outcome.

Shame on you for removing the originating website's water mark from the image, Andrew.

For the record, the original website on the image was www.palm119.net.

Is it me or does anyone find the shape hideous, if you look at the side shots, its curved in a weird way from the screen to the keyboard.
Just ugly

I would rather have the sides (which I have no problem with) over an antennae that sticks out. Pick your battle.

Is Treonauts starting to show an inability to be independent? No Megapixel camera and no Wi-Fi on Nitro? In an age when this is practically standard for a smartphone, Palm really is taking the mickey on this one. I assume that it is aiming for a mainly North American market where megapixel camera phones remain in the minority and people mostly get around in cars, in which they can carry laptops, should they need WiFi access. The Sony Ericsson P990i is looking better all the time...

Mike - as has always been the case with our Treo it is not always a matter of trying to cram as many features as possible (as most competing devices are doing) but about delivering the best and most balanced "total solution".

Yes, I agree that no high megapixel camera and no WiFi on this Treo may be a minus but there is still not a single other smartphone on the market that I would rather own than my Treo.

Cheers, A.

I thinks its ugly and dont particularly care for the form factor. I currently got a 650 and love it, i think that the 700p is a worthy upgrade and i think i'll just move to that, instead of waiting for this. At first i hated the stub antenna, and wished the treo didnt have one, but i guess it grew on me and can't see a treo without a stub

im loving it without the antenna it just looks so sexy, it will be my upgrade from my 600 its the only one worth upgrading for!

The Nitro will probably also be UMTS capable since all of the GSM carriers are looking at moving toward the much faster WCDMA technology. So until that comes out, not need to drool over this one, soon a GSM only phone will have as much bragging rights as an analog "Bag Phone".

No upgrade in camera. No upgrade in battery life. No phone upgrade over treo 650

does anyone know if current OS, PALM or Microsoft, can allow secured site viewing. example would be see quotes using ameritrade streamer(java on secured site). TIA

When the **HEck** is Palm gonna give us more memory? Why can't they get into the Gig realm of things like the iPod or iPhone? I have a 650, and am CONTINUALLY running out of room on my device. I have a few of the Beast apps loaded (DateBk6), but try to put everything that I can on the my sim card. No more memory STINKS!