Treo 755p for Sprint: First Images!

I'm confused by this posting -- I thought Treo 700p is EVDO and thus 3G already. Since we're talking 755p for SPRINT wouldn't this mean that all that is effectively new about 755p is miniSD and new form factor?

What would be NEWS from my perspective would be a Palm-based Cingular HSPDA Treo.

Can anyone clarify?

I mean HSDPA ;)

Question for Palm OS Treo lovers ... Although I like my current Palm 700p, I envy those that have a slimmer design product. (other companies and OSs) How is it possible that others can engineer thinner phones, yet even the 755p photos above still has a chunky look?

I've always thought that my chubby 700p had a few extras that those other guys didn't, but I'm starting to believe the only advantage is a bigger battery ... something I'd have to deal with 'if' I switch to a 'still chunky' 755p.

In reality the only advantage would be slightly smaller and lighter but less battery life ... am I missing something?

I agree re a GSM HSDPA Palm OS Treo, Treonut. I'd be all over that. I'd even take UMTS (preferably with an upgrade to HSDPA). No way I'd switch to Sprint or Verizon.

The other thing is that when the 750 launched, the reason cited for miniSD over SD was to make room inside for the HSDPA antenna. Has that been clarified as the reason for it on the 755 (the first internal EVDO antenna)? And has the 755 been confirmed to have miniSD as opposed to SD? After all, the 680 shares the form factor and has SD.

That's one thing I'd hate to give up--my 8GB SDHC card.

The 755p, if on Sprint, will not support HSDPA, as Sprint uses CDMA (hence EV-DO) technology. What would be cool is if it supported EV-DO rev. A, and Palm figured out a way to make Garnet allow simultaneous voice and data (a spec of rev. A)

Other than in the form of VOIP, EVDO Rev A cannot do simultaneous data and voice. A misinformed rumor seems to be repeated all over the Internet that it can do simultaneous voice and data in it's native format when that is not the case.

From Wikipedia:

"Qualcomm Rev A modems have the ability to maintain both circuit switched voice and packet data calls from the same radio, this functionality is not available in Qualcomm Rev. 0 chipsets."

Direct from the inventor of the technology:

http://www.qualcomm.com/technology/1xev-do/ip.html

"The ability to offer VoIP services over Rev. A networks will profoundly enhance operators' services and application offerings. VoIP service offerings will enable a variety of bundled or converged services and applications such as simultaneous voice and data services."

Again, simultaneous IP based voice and data is different than simultaneous circuit switched voice and packet data.

@RichC, if you look at the slimmer phones such as the Moto Q, Blackjack, Nokia E62 you'll notice they don't have touch sensitive screens. It's this and the battery size that allows them to be that thin.

"@RichC, if you look at the slimmer phones such as the Moto Q, Blackjack, Nokia E62 you'll notice they don't have touch sensitive screens. It's this and the battery size that allows them to be that thin."

I love Treo's, but we make too many excuses for them being big and clunky. The iphone, which is about half as thick as the new "thinner" treos has a touch screen, and an 8gig flash drive built in, and it has about the same battery life. If the new rumored Treo isn't slick, thin, and innovative, my next smartphone will be the iphone. I love my Treo, but they havn't come up with a significantly new thing in 4 years. That is inexcusable.

Gaber, while I can't speak for anyone else, I never expected the 755 to support HSDPA--for the very reason you cited. My point above (and I think Treonut's as well--at least, as I read the comment) was that the 755 isn't that big a change from a 700, unless there's more to it we haven't seen yet. Internal antenna, smaller size, soft-touch coating, maybe miniSD instead of SD... an upgrade more or less comparable to a 650-to-680 upgrade (which I did last fall).

While I'm glad to see the 755 in some ways, 1) I want to see what Jeff Hawkins's 3rd device is (to see if for my usage it makes sense to replace either my 680 or my T|X with it) before I make any further upgrades. Again, let me emphasize *if it makes sense for my usage*--the rumors I've heard say it's a decidedly different animal from either a standalone handheld or a Treo. On the other hand, since there's some definite overlap between standalone Palms and Treos, maybe there will be with this new one too.

Btw, my hunch is that the new device is what has the codename Sherlock, not the 755. The codename makes more sense that way--to me, anyway. No solid basis for that yet.

Will it offer voicedialing over a bluetooth headset?

Correction: my mistake, I did not mean to point out that the Treo 755p would have miniSD. It has a standard SD slot as the Treo 680.

Cheers, A.

"making the Treo 755p the first PalmOS smartphone to support 3G broadband connectivity... "

As mentioned above, this is incorrect. The 700p was the first, which is what the 755p is replacing.

A couple of things I miss not having are video conferencing (looks like it doesn't have that). USB Host/usb otg (I don't see anything about that). A better quality camera (maybe but not that much better).

I long for the days when having a Palm Treo meant that you were the first to have some feature, but all the ones mentioned above are already avaliable on other platforms. Oh poo.

Any idea how much ram we are looking at??

I was one of the first to have the Treo 650. I still have it. I love it, and use it several times a day. I am, however, ready for a new and better phone/pda. The iPhone looks awesome, but it lacks 3G internet speeds, which is a major selling factor for me. I would also like a cool user interface. Give it to me in Treo form, and I will buy.

Andrew, why are you touting this as the first 3G Palm Treo -- the 700p already does EV-DO on Sprint and Verizon?

As people said above, from the specs we see now, the 700p->755p sounds very much like the 650-680 upgrade. It brings the new form factor which is nice, but not a lot of sizzle on the tech side.

Since I'm a GSM user, I'm still waiting for a 3G GSM Palm Treo (HSDPA or whatever); that would be big news. Right now for GSM we can choose between the 680 (not 3G) or the 750 (Windows).

How about the camera...? Is it going to be the lousy one included on the 680 or the better one from the 700w?

Will the 755p deliver "Push" e-mail?

AHHHH!!! So what! Its nothing new at all. Just no antenna, basically 680 twin. i have a Treo700p, so upgrading to this phone would be a waste of money. i was expecting or at least in the future Treo's, a bigger screen, better camera/battery life, and wi-fi even though EV-DO works just fine (unless you're at an airport in Europe with free wi-fi but no EV-DO). I was expecting more of a change from the 700p. I guess i have to wait another year for something new. :(

FYI

-The 755p upgrades data speeds to evdo rev A
-The launch date is 5-14
-Push email will be available through goodlink technology
-Although Rev A technology allows for simultaneous circut switched voice and data, its not yet confirmed if the 755p software will allow it
-camera is 1.3 MP, like the 700p
-slightly thinner/lighter design

I'm looking forward to this new phone, any word on the other colors

Does anyone know what size memory card the 755p can take?

2gb or 4gb??

I am looking to have all my accessories when I get the phone on the 14th.

sorry, no way in hell will I get this phone. palm, step your game up. catch up with apple. this shitty phone has all of the specs of your previous phones. please, please give me something new. I love the look of the phone, but give me wifi a better browser. if the 755w has wifi, wm6 and wifi, I promise to convert. if not iphone

Sprint's new release web site shows for the first time today the specs on the treo 755P.

http://www2.sprint.com/mr/news_dtl.do?id=16520