Palm Now Selling Treo 755p From $279

As always Treonauts always support palm and treo. No matter how bad the features are Treonauts always say worth an upgrade! even though palm missing so many upgrades which comes default in other similar phones.

I'd like to upgrade my 700p but I have in my mind two things: 1. the SD card already have...( need to sell it before...) 2. the seidio extended battery 3200 mAh ( need to sell it also.....) I love antena less feature but is it really a good upgrade?.....

Alejandro, I can't say that it's an upgrade. Upgrade implies improved features or functionality, I'm sorry it's just not there in the 755p. Actually, you get less battery life and talk/standby time. So unless, you reallly have to have the new form factor, I'd say pass if owned a 700p. (see the comparision chart posted here last week)

I agree with Gary. I was curious so I checked out the comparison chart, and all the across the board the 700p and 755p are the same. It's pretty sad. So what are you "upgrading"? No antenna, well that "looks" nice, but does it affect receptiom mini-SD, well now we have to buy new cards, and the 3200 33% more life battery I bought from Treonauts would now be worthless. It seems like Palm is trying to NOT sell the new 755p.

"My reasons for this are simple. On the one hand I want to have a slimmer, lighter and antenna-less smartphone (it really makes a huge difference). On the other hand, given the constant daily use that I make of my Treo for work and fun I can more than easily justify the cost of my upgrade."

This seems simple, but price wise it's know where close. Its like saying i'd buy a new car if they put a shorter antenna on it, or dropped 0.8oz off the car. REALLY useful? No, not in the slightest bit.

We are talking 0.8oz off the device. 6.4oz compared to 5.6oz 2 AAA batteries weigh about that. Now can you tell a difference? You can, but is it HUGE? I cant say that shaving that amount off and dumping an antenna is worth $279 assuming your getting the deal.

I cant justify anything on that device, and definitely not at $279.

$279 can get you MUCH more in the way of either accessories for the 700p or heck other electronics out there. An MP3 player, a GPS for the treo lots of gas maybe, or heck, some laptops are only $699 now for a heck of a steal, and have TONS of features. Apply $279 and you've got a good deal coming.

Simple as it seems, its not really as a whole. Does the device make you more productive? NO! this new unit doesn't do such a thing. This is why we buy these devices. Do we want what what it has now as far as features on the device? Yeah, its nice they are antenna less, and weight lighter.

Software still sucks
Memory is still the same
OS is still the same
No updated bluetooth
No Wi-fi
Talk time is down since the battery is smaller

Companies like to do this, and wait for suckers to buy it, and post exactly what it is on the front page. People who justify spending $$$ on almost nothing. They laugh at headquarters and go... Do you believe these idiots out there are buying this only off of 0.8oz less and no antenna? Man that's funny. They laugh to the bank.

Point being... Take a Treo 755p and the 700p and tell me 5 things it DOES that mine doesn't do that makes people more productive on a daily business. A hair less weight and the no antenna has NOTHING to do with productivity. The 755p is using the same version of blazer as I have and I have google maps too.

I can name 2 things that make mine more productive.

1. Longer battery life because heck, it is a phone and I want the most talk time, not less.

2. I can store more stuff on an SD card than can people with the 755p and the miniSD.

THAT in itself justifies NOT spending $279+

I can't believe that the voice dialing tru Bluetooth has not been addressed on this so called upgrade, been hoping for a whole year for a patch fix or now an upgrade to enjoy an effective hands free dialing capability but....

"I can store more stuff on an SD card than can people with the 755p and the miniSD."

Eh, a 4Gb mini-SD card will hold exactly the same amount of data as a 4Gb SD card. Sure 8Gb SD cards are starting to make an appearance but how many people have actually got them. In any case 8Gb mini-SD's will be out soon.

How do you qualify the 755p as an upgrade? A couple cosmetic changes and slightly tweaked software. Two beefs:

1) When my friends take pics, they hand me their SD cards afterwards and I can instantly email them out. Unless miniSD becomes much more popular, what a waste. Palm wants me to upgrade but discontinue my SD cards... sigh...

2) Wireless. Funny a top-end 'smartphone' doesn't have wireless. If Palm is truly trying to tap into the consumer-market (not professional or prosumer or whatever you call it), wireless is essential. People cannot afford data plans on their own... but if you give them wireless, they're bound their Treo a lot more (informal survey of my friends).

An "upgrade" would be when they have their new OS at the end of the year, ending their ancient Palm 5.4.9.x OS.

Give me multi-tasking, wireless, and maybe larger screen. Stop taking these baby steps and call them upgrades!!!

"Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me often, call them 680, 700p, 700w, 700wx, 750, 755p....."

I got one and love it. You are all all forgoting that there are still a ton of 650 users who will upgrade to this.

No doubt we wouldn't love it either The African Nerd. However, it's not enough for another $579. I don't know why this $279 number keeps geting thrown in the mix. You only get this deal if you're starting a NEW line of service. That means even if you've had your Treo 650 like I have for 2 years, I can't go into Sprint and get this phone for $279. I get $150 of the price. Whoopity doo! $429 for the phone. It's ridiculous. Now, if I was a new customer switching from say a flip phone or whatever, $279 is a very good price in my opinion. But as for us current Treonauts, $579 is too much.

Furthermore, people want to bash the new iPhone coming out and say oh it can't do anything my Treo can't do, yada yada yada. It has WiFi and an 8gb hard drive, and a bigger screen. Why can't Palm listen to the requests of its customers like Apple did. How long is it going to take Palm to get it right, if they ever do? Apple is doing it right the first time. Side to side, I think more people would choose the iPhone over the Treo. Anybody who disagrees is crazy.

I've a 650 with Sprint, past the 2 year expiry. I've been awaiting the iPhone before deciding whether to switch (and to what). I've been happy with Sprint's service (except when I found out they cut off DUN). iPhone: WiFi, 8GB, bigger screen, cool factor, *but* unknown software breadth and depth. What do I *need* that I can't get through web? Salling Clicker, SplashID, and a timer, as of now.

So, Cingular with iPhone, Cingular with 680 (I've been traveling some internationally recently; GSM appeals), or Sprint with 755?

Not easy, sad or good to say. Reckon I'll know more mid-June...

"Apple is doing it right the first time"

I don't think you can really pronounce the success of the iPhone months before it's even released!!! Sure it's a nice device and people will buy it but I don't think it's going to be a volume seller. Of course time will tell :o)

I would upgrade immediately from my 700p to a 755p if it only cost me $279. I plan to checkout the iPhone next month since it will be less expensive than what Sprint is currently charging their existing customers for the 755p.

Well I have a Treo 600. Bought just weeks before the 650 came out because I got tired of waiting for an upgrade that never seem to come. So for me it's finally time to move up. Personally I like the 700p over the 755p. But I shudder at the upgrade price offered by Sprint. If it were not for the family plan that I just added the wife on, I'd switch. Forget Wi-Fi. Won't happen. Why?? Because if they introduce Wi-Fi, many of us wouldn't need to pay the extra price Sprint charges for Power Vision. Big deal, no external Antenna. Personally I like having something I can grab my phone by when buried in my pocket. If it wasn't for all the software I already have using Palm OS, I'd jump on an Apple iPhone.

Wow, this is just... sad.

Bring on the iPhone.

"I don't think you can really pronounce the success of the iPhone months before it's even released!!! Sure it's a nice device and people will buy it but I don't think it's going to be a volume seller. Of course time will tell :o)"

Months before it's released? It comes out next month.

As far as it not being a volume seller, people thought the same thing about the iPod. Go figure.

What's all this resentment about Palm going to the mini SD format? I can't think of any new smartphone introduced by a major vendor in the last 12 month that actually had a SD slot.

And then there is the iPhone...No expansion slot at all!

Mini SD is so cheap these day, if you are letting a $20 expense stopping you from upgrading, then you really shouldn't upgrade.

Upgraded from a 650 on Monday. Very, very happy with the improvements. So far I have not one complaint, well except my Treo bluetooth headset didn't pair with it. Wi-fi is not important to me and mini-SD cards are cheap. Voice dialing thru BT would be nice, but with the contact manager I don't find myself needing it like did with a regular phone. Extra $5 for DUN is a fine with me too. Although I don't think I will pay it. And seriously let's wait till the iPhone comes out before comparing it to the Treo. I have serious doubts without the QWERTY.

DO NOT UPGRADE!
If the 755 is anywhere near as bad as the 680 WHICH 5% OF THE TIME CAN NOT ANSWER A CALL WITHOUT RESTARTING. I BOUGHT A 680 at launch and thought the problems were small and were do to my slow beta testing/reinstalling of my hundreds of dollar of palm software. After a 40 days of losing phone calls and bluetooth problems I called palm and after 3 hours and many reset realized the problems were present and intermittent even without any third party software. AS THERE IS NO HOPE OF AN UPGRADE I SWITCHED BACK TO MY 650 (WHICH UNDERWENT TWO PREVIOUS UPGRADES). So unless you have nothing to do and can test all situations in the next 30 days there is a good chance you will be sorry and as you all know palm DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ITS CUSTOMERS AS THEY HAVE PROMISED TO FIX THE 680 FOR 6 MONTHS NOW AND THE 700P FOR ALMOST A YEAR. AS LONG AS IDIOTS BUY THEIR PRODUCTS AND USE A TINY FRACTION OF THE FEATURE SAND DO NOT NOTICE HOW UNSTABLE THE PALM TREOS ARE THEY WILL KEEP RELEASING CRAPPY ALPHA SOFTWARE TO THE PUBLIC. I HAVE HAD A PALM SINCE 1997 AND I AM SAD TO SEE HOW POORLY THE COMPANY HAS TREATED ITS OLDEST CUSTOMERS AND HOW FAR THEY HAVE DEVIATED FROM THEIR ORIGINAL PHILOSOPHY. THEY HAVE NOT ADDED SIGNIFICANT FEATURE OR UPDATED THE TREO IN 5 YEARS NOW. VERY SAD BUT PALM IS DEAD.

For those that think Apple is doing it right the first time... let me just say this.

1. Being locked into Cingular (for how ever many years) will probably hurt them for awhile. I'm not about to break my contract just to get an iphone.

2. To do this phone "Right" it should be the full converged device, phone, video, mp3... and with only 8 gigs of memory, that's not going to fly...especially when you are talking video.

3. I don't know if I can go back to not having a hard keys QWERTY keyboard...that would be tough.

So, those a 3 big issues, sure this 755 may not be a huge upgrade, and they may be doing small upgrades to keep selling phones and accessories...but like someone else said, going from the 650 to the 755 is a pretty big upgrade.

And unlike someone said, removing the antenna and shaving 0.8oz off the phone is a HUGE deal... and you can't compare it to a CAR!!! Or compare it on the same level... that would be like knocking off 400 pounds of a 3500 lbs car. Removing the antenna would be like getting a convertible.

So lets be real here... and everyone remember, this isn't software...meaning, just because they call it an upgrade doesn't mean the users of the phone model right below should upgrade. They may just be putting this out to get all us 650 and 680 users to upgrade.

That being said, Palm would be damn stupid not to make plans to be competitive with the iphone once that comes out.

1. Being locked into Cingular (for how ever many years) will probably hurt them for awhile. I'm not about to break my contract just to get an iphone.

-No one is telling you to break your contract. That means you can spend $579 for a new Treo 755 since you're under contract and get get the $279 price.

2. To do this phone "Right" it should be the full converged device, phone, video, mp3... and with only 8 gigs of memory, that's not going to fly...especially when you are talking video.

-With only 8 gigs of memory?!? You are seriously joking right? How many movies/songs do you want on your device anyway? Just sync what you want on the phone! Lame excuse in my opinion.

3. I don't know if I can go back to not having a hard keys QWERTY keyboard...that would be tough.

-It might be tough, it might be better. We have yet to see.

I really think you don't get what people are saying. I'm sorry if I turned the discussion into a Treo vs. iPhone. I did not mean to. Take the iPhone out fo the equation. The Palm Treo 755p is NOT worth $579 for current Treonauts. Give me some worthy reasons why anyone current Treonaut should fork over $579 for this new Treo. It seems more worth it to upgrade to the iPhone for $20 more which has WiFi, a better camera, and a hard drive.

Ho-hum.

that's true. no upgrade at all although the price is good...but the problems with the card and the extended batteries is bad.....maybe seidio launches the extended battery for the 755 soon.... anyway I am happy with my 700p.....