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Treo 800 New Treo Form Factor First Images!

Update: The Treo 800 is expected to be the new Palm Centro and you can view the first official Palm Centro image here.

After various rumours this past week pointing to a probable release by Verizon Wireless of the Treo 755p in June and a new Treo 800w in August/September we finally [thanks for the images Rick] get the opportunity to see (below) that yet another Windows Mobile Treo might also deliver a completely new, slightly smaller, form factor…

Treo 800w

Even though blurry images are “de rigueur” for such leaks, the above prototype is clearly branded Palm and Vodafone and you can also faintly see the Windows logo at the bottom left corner of the screen.  While the keyboard appears identical to the Arctic Treo 680 the keys are all laid out in a straight line as opposed to the curve on previous models, the speaker at the top center has been “flattened”, the Call Answer/End buttons are much larger while the 5Way navigation button looks distinctly like that on the LifeDrive.  Another noticeable change is the fact that the screen is not square but rectangular (possibly with a resolution of 240x320).  Finally, looking at the comparison image below you’ll notice that this Treo is shorter (by about 10mm) than the current Treo 755p and it is also possible that it could be slimmer.

Treo 800p Comparison

Gizmodo separately reveals (take with a pinch of salt) that Sprint will also carry the Treo 800w which according to its sources will have EV-DO REV A., Windows Mobile 6, a 320x320 display, 256MB flash, 128MB RAM, a 1.3-megapixel camera, Wi-Fi and built-in GPS…

Aside from the conceptual Treo image (above left) with a badly (fake) overlaid PalmOS screenshot there is (sadly) currently no indication as to whether this prototype form factor might eventually also be used to produce a Treo 800p.

Although I am naturally very excited to finally see a completely new Treo design I am keen to learn more about what additional hardware improvements have been made as well as anxiously waiting to see significant enhancements on the software and accessories side (both from Palm and 3rd party developers who appear to be asleep at the wheel lately delivering increasingly average products).

Palm Gandolf in Living Color [Morning Paper]
Palm Treo 800w Details Leaked [Gizmodo]

Treonauts always expect something new

Posted by Andrew on June 11, 2007 at 05:38 AM

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by Bizzy | Jun 11, 2007 7:50:15 AM

Too small... espicially the screen... the phone has a look that, to me, predates the treos...

and in a way, it looks like a $49.99 cheap Palm knockoff you'd expect to find at a Walmart that turns out to be a simple address book and calculator ( with 512Kb storage. I'll keep my "bulky" 700p thank-you-very-much

by Dave Hartman | Jun 11, 2007 9:38:20 AM

Some improvement; smaller screen, no Palm version. I guess when Palm did its flowchart a few months ago, they really did mean that Palm OS machines would be second class and a sop to the "legacy" crowd. I'll be taking a close look at the IPhone when it comes out since I feel like Palm is not taking its users seriously.

by BMAI | Jun 11, 2007 9:47:21 AM

Ok, so they're making the screen smaller?! First the Foleo and now this generic looking device. It's official, I have no other options, I'm going to Apple for the iPhone. Palm doesn't have enough creative ideas to be in this market anymore. I'd keep my old 650 over that ugly looking thing.

by Dave | Jun 11, 2007 10:48:33 AM

OT, but I can't find this info anywhere.

Anyone know places to rent a Treo for short term? 30 - 90 days or so? I'm looking for 750 if possible.

by LouMacUser | Jun 11, 2007 10:51:25 AM

I am not convinced this is the device for me either. Still using my VZN 650. Have a new 700p however not yet activated and will be returning. I would love an iPhone however not crazy about switching service providers. I need to make a decision...thanks for the info all.

by Victor | Jun 11, 2007 11:38:21 AM

Arrrghh!!! The ugliest ugly smartphone in the universe! Please say that's a joke!!! Nooooo!!!

by Mpaper | Jun 11, 2007 12:29:23 PM

Hello, on the same day moments before we posted the Gandolf we posted the coming 800w. http://morningpaper.typepad.com/morning_paper/2007/06/sprint_will_hav.html

The Gandolf seems to have completely drowned this out. Yes folks it is real! Both of them, and they are coming to Sprint in Q4 07! Don't know about the 800w But I think the Gandolf is going to do very well for Palm. It's not the most beautiful thing out there, but it will hit that market that none of us belong to, the market that all the other companies are killing Palm with. They need this.

by dave | Jun 11, 2007 12:59:00 PM

Is it so hard for them to keep a design like the 755p and just update the hardware and software? I mean its not rocket science palm. Oh wait... We have the Foleo and the messed up MR. Yes, it is rocket science for them

by Kevin | Jun 11, 2007 4:01:33 PM

am I the only person who thinks it's odd that the '800w' is a Windows Mobile 6 Standard device, instead of a Windows Mobile 6 Professional device? That device in the BlurryPic(tm) is definitely running a touchscreen-less version of WM, or else the start menu would be in the upper left.

by Jorge | Jun 11, 2007 7:27:28 PM

OOuuchhh. I was a 2 treo 650 owner; I try to obtain a better thing with 680, but I returned to my old and dear 650 and throw away 680 to another person. Now, I am waiting my HTC P4350 phone. Woow. Im sorry palm... After three years waiting some better, I don´t love you any more. P.D: Palm...Do you can listen to your ex-users now?

by James | Jun 11, 2007 10:13:11 PM

I love my Treo 650 but Palm has got to start getting with the game. This device is definitely two steps backwards. Smaller screen, ugly design...don't they have an ex-iPod designer working for them?!

I'll be upgrading in a year, but if this is the new face of Palm, I'm probably going to jump ship.

by Fox | Jun 12, 2007 7:42:33 AM

How could it get past them that slap dab in the middle is a LifeDrive Navigation form factor? This is a very clear reminder of their recently discontinued EOL product that had more memory and a full screen.

How bad can it be when your "new" product looks like a photoshop made up of a Lifedrive, Creative Zen Vision M, and a keyboard from the kind you'd find on "Speak and Spell" This is the kind of device (purely from it's looks) you'd expect to find as a knockoff in some foreign country.

How can they be so consistently off? Is this what Jeff meant about being able to now have full creative freedom over their operating system and hardware? It almost has you understand why this wasn't the case before.

by Maynard | Jun 12, 2007 11:58:52 AM

I'm not sure about this one. I don't ever think they'll launch a Treo with WIFI capabilities. Why then would you have any reason to subscribe to Verizon's/Sprint's/Cingular's PDA plans? Definetly a conflict of interest for the cell provider and Palm.

As for the above photo, it's not the best look Treo to date. I still prefer the looks of the 755 series. Why go to a smaller screen...maybe to fit in more memory or possibly better bluetooth drivers and processor?

Can't they get it right?

by G | Jun 12, 2007 10:15:43 PM

This looks like a very sad attempt at now obsolete Motorola Q. So even if they "need that other market", it won't work, since the Q and this thing will both be behind by then.

by TreoLova | Jun 12, 2007 10:29:56 PM

Forgive me for being naive, but what can the Treo do that the iPhone can't?

by Michael | Jun 13, 2007 11:11:29 AM

screen = much too small, design = rather ugly. Sorry, but I hope the next generation treo will NOT a small bit look like the thing on the picture.

by dga | Jun 13, 2007 12:29:17 PM

Smaller screen, are you kidding me?

Makes me want to swear. Does anybody at Palm READ this blog? Can they be so misdirected, so aimless, so utterly rudderless?

Please, wake from this bad dream. Can they really be this inept? Could something that held so much promise as the 650 platform, that just required the right functionality tweaks (screen size, memory, wi-fi...), possibly have been made by this same company?

Evidently I'm going to keep my Treo 650 until the end of time.

by zetsurin | Jun 14, 2007 6:15:18 PM

Oh dear. RIP Palm. What went wrong. My 650 is on it's last legs and I will have to go elsewhere now. Tragic.

by Palm Fan | Jun 14, 2007 10:50:06 PM

Speaking of "RIP"

You can now express your grief, anger, frustration, sadness, or whatever at PalmisDead.com

by Angelo | Jun 18, 2007 7:11:28 PM

You've got to be kidding me! Who is writing this crap. Who is doing the styling for Palm, did they recently get fired from Nokia? I would like everyone to check the link I'm adding and compare the phones, aside from the qwerty keyboard do you notice any simularities. Why the hell am I staying with my treo if they are going to insult me with such a phone. Release a GSM 3g Palm OS treo, maybe a 750P. Damn, how hard is it to accomplish that.

by Treo2fan | Jun 19, 2007 11:43:35 PM

After waiting so long for a new upgrade to my 650...I might instead get a Blackberry 8830 and keep my Palm TX and modded Lifedrive around.

by rcstyle | Jun 20, 2007 12:40:49 AM

Good lord, what the hell is that thing. It looks like something I stepped on in my brother's backyard (by the way, he owns a Bull Mastiff). I think there is obvious concensus here that the Gandalf should not be distributed. Palm--let's go back to the drawing board
and produce a phone that will sell.

by Ryan | Jun 25, 2007 7:54:18 PM

Someone is smoking illegal herbs if they think that this will be a upgrade from anything before. I know that they are trying to get a young crowd,but they forget who pays their bills. I am a 100 % Palm man, but I can't believe what they are thinking.

by vij | Jun 26, 2007 3:02:29 PM

from the looks of it, it seems the keyboard part slides up and down to reveal the answer/end keys and the navigation key, somthing similar to the old thungsten

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