Treo 800w First Image!?

What would be the difference in this and the 500, besides the touchscreen? Is the 500 on GSM?
Also, how much importance do you place on a touchscreen? I have a 650, & 600 before that, and I almost never use the touchscreen. I'm willing to give up the touchscreen for a thinner device.
I know you say to take the veracity of the features with a grain of salt, but hasn't someone shown that there is built-in wifi capability on one of the current Treo models?
Thanks

Hi:

I am wondering when treo is going to start thinking of creating a treo specially for people that travels a lot, and need a unlocked smartphone with wi-fi services?

It is about time!!!!!!

Thanks

One small point, there is an antenna-less Treo on CDMA - the 755p.

The pic is showing that it is the same size as the centro. That is not to scale with that keyboard it would be as wide as the treo 750.

I hated the centro at first. After holding one I had to have it. I honestly could not go back to another brick like the 750 so even if the 800 has wifi if it is larger than the centro no way.

George - the main difference between this Treo 800w and the Treo 500 would indeed be the CDMA vs. GSM but also the form factor and the touchscreen.

Given the number of smartphones available without a touchscreen it is obvious that they are "usable" but at this stage I still feel that a touchscreen has its advantages.

Although there have been rumours of a Treo with WiFi the fact is that nobody has yet been able to categorically prove this claim and we'll have to wait and see if the Treo 800w will be the first to implement it.

Dan - thanks, I should have said the first antenna-less Windows Mobile Treo smartphone...

Cheers, A.

Jay - the large image of the Treo 800w with the Centro has been purposely digitally altered to give it a square screen and in this way the Treo 800w actually has the same width as the Centro with the same mini QWERTY keyboard.

Cheers, A.

Jay - the large image of the Treo 800w with the Centro has been purposely digitally altered to give it a square screen and in this way the Treo 800w actually has the same width as the Centro with the same mini QWERTY keyboard.

I don't think so from the picture it is not possible. Look at the space in between each key it is the same as the 700 or 750. There is no way with that layout it could be as narrow as the centro.

The fact that the palm generations of smart phones don't have wi fi...is somewhat disrespectful to it's supporters. It's like having a laptop without the wireless features...(they can go figure)...I am hanging in here for 1 more generation of smartphones from palm, if no wi fi...I am saying "see ya". I do love my 680 wish it had wi fi.

Looks to me it is just a photoshoped "version" of the Treo 800w. Very similar form factor (but smaller) as the Treo, same (almost) rounded edges of the Centro, same keyboard of the Treo, and same (but with arched lines) middle-located hard buttons of the Centro.

Although a pretty good "work", it doesn't look real in my opinion. I would buy it though, I like it (the stretched version ... with Palm OS! ;) ).

By stretched I meant the "original" image, not the thin Centro-size image.

Andrew, what do you mean by "looks very much like the genuine article"? Where's the genuine article?

what do the Palm screen's continue to get smaller, whereas the trend in touchscreen smartphones is towards larger flush screens? *headshake*

Your enthusiasm gets 5 stars, but the phone with Windows - from me - gets 2 star. If the screen is less then 320*320 - 1 star.

I have to admit this is just sooo far from the eagerness we had when the 650 Treo appeared.

And now Nokia N-Series, E-ten and HTC do seem yummie.
And some of them have VERY nice keyboards, good datatransfer speed - 3G, very good screens - VGA (480 x 640) touchscreen, integrated GPS.
With all this Windows can be tolerated.

Treo Killers? Definitly! Unfortunately.

Wow, Palm's stock just plummeted from $19 to $9. Looks like everyone is losing confidence in them...and all they can do is roll out the same old.

Palm needs to find their Steve Jobs, and fast.

Whoops...my bad. Looks like shareholders got a return of $9/share. But Palm's new chairman says no new products for 18 months?!

Any comments or info on the Palm OS eventually being dropped in favor of Windows??

IS IT POSSIBLE IT HAS WIFI????

Sorry for shouting, but it looks like this baby has wifi (finally). I realize that there have been rumors circulating to this end, but that was also true with earlier Treos.

But there is definately a wifi connection icon on the screen. So the question is is this a photo or at least a representation of the real image on the screen?

It's possible that it could be that this is a concept image and they just cut-and-pasted a windows mobile screen onto it, which incidentally has the wifi icon.

But I hope it's real.

I just spoke to a Sprint Manager and he says that this phone will have Wifi and is slated to come out in early January unless there are some bugs that can't be worked out in time. They should start sending out flyers after Christmas. This is Frisco, Tx so us cowboys will see.

Good bye Mr CEO Ed Colligan !

How do you explain that all the world and all companies in the world have mooved rapidly to fully equiped machines except Palm?

How can you trust the leadership of a such CEO ? ...

If you deny your own child ( a Palm with a Palm software and open to Macintosh PC for instance) only because you have been seduced by a Behemoth ( a Window system 5 or 6) you are painted yourself in the corner as you did the last 5 years...

You better have walked on the steps of your own roots...

It took you 5 years to understand that a WI-FI and many other facilities should be there . Palm is just a dying dinosaure...

When you buy a Microwave oven you intend to cook your food and not to freeze it... so you should better work on a Palm wich does not freeze... and open concentrate on a Smart Palm system ...

You demonstrate a self hatred behavior when skipping your own child from the market... You need to hire a "shrink" not an Apple assistant...( it is too late my dear)

You can't imagine my deception... Ask artists how they do work ( designers, stage directors, musicians, choreographers, writers...) instead of selling your imagination to Mr Bill Gate... who does well what he does because he is who he is... and how many more years do you need to understand the Nokia or Google or Apple spirit...

Your company will be always late because you no longer work inspired by a dream but only immediate profit... and "fast food" type solutions...
Creation needs time, risk and courage... you have lost your company by being a follower and not a creator...

Bye bye Colligan

when are they gona start makein treos with new features so far from the 600 up they pretty much look the same and all do the same thing so haveing a treo 680 or a 750 why would you wana waste money to something eles.its not any diffrent just a diffrent size.i think plam needs to stop redesigning the case of the treo and work on makeing it better.Cause really all your paying for is a 400 to 600 dollar case

Lipstick on a pig is still a pig. Wi-fi and lotsa memory is the lipstick - Windoze is the pig.

Wake me up when Palm has finally taken their heads out of their a$$es and are offering a new PALM OS rock solid working platform that has a bigger screen so I can actually SEE the email attachments.

Whoever thinks the 6 or 7 series are bricks oughta try comparing them to a laptop or desktop while sitting in traffic or on the train. We need a work platform, not a fashion statement or toy to txt our rugrats. I have no interest in squinting to see an attachment on a postage stamp-sized screen that is all cute in a pink case.

Sheesh.

Treo is very passive to market feedbacks. The comsumers want Wi-Fi badly etc, they shut their ears and came out with obsolete 500 & Centro spec. The Taiwanese, Korean, Japanese listen closely to market pulses and develop HTC touch Diamond, Omnia etc. Apple came with the iPhone ideas. Why Palm is slow in following and they don't even found leading anymore. I'm stuck with Palm OS programs.Frustration!